Official 2019 Pick The Packers Win/Loss Record Thread

[mraynrand]

13-3, although I can't honestly see three to lose - but I'll go with 3 slip ups.

For Tex it's always year zero.

[ThunderDan]

It feels like 9-7 to me. The offense is an unknown and who knows with the D. I could see the D step up this year and if the O can function, we could reach 11-5.

[Fritz]

Thunder Dan going to the positive side!

Well, unless you're Tex, in which case even 11 - 5 makes one a negative nellie.

But I hope Tex is right. 13 - 3 sounds awfully good.

[texaspackerbacker]

If there was an over and under on 13 wins, I'd definitely take the over. As I said, I really can't see three games that are likely losses - barring injury to the GOAT, of course. @ K.C. and @ Dallas could be tough, but at worst, those games would be toss ups. Who do ya'all see beating the Packers? The God damned Bears and/or Vikings? Come On!

[mraynrand]

If there was an over and under on 13 wins, I'd definitely take the over. As I said, I really can't see three games that are likely losses - barring injury to the GOAT, of course. @ K.C. and @ Dallas could be tough, but at worst, those games would be toss ups. Who do ya'all see beating the Packers? The God damned Bears and/or Vikings? Come On!

lol

Or the refs - you can always blame the refs if they lose!

[yetisnowman]

If there was an over and under on 13 wins, I'd definitely take the over. As I said, I really can't see three games that are likely losses - barring injury to the GOAT, of course. @ K.C. and @ Dallas could be tough, but at worst, those games would be toss ups. Who do ya'all see beating the Packers? The God damned Bears and/or Vikings? Come On!

I'll give you 3 to 1 on the over. My 3000 vs your 1000. O/U 13 wins.
What do you say?

[texaspackerbacker]

That's a mighty tempting offer ...... but I gave up gambling about 25 years ago. Sorry to wimp out hahahahaha.

Keep track of these posts, though. Either I or ya'all negativists will seriously be able to rub the nose of the other(s) in it at the end of the season.

And there's always the caveat: assuming the GOAT doesn't get hurt.

[Fritz]

I hope you like dirt, Tex.

But what do we do if they finish 8 - 8? Both of us rub our noses in it at the end of the season, while all those namby-pamby middle-of-the-roaders crow about being right?

We're two of a kind, Tex. We're both extremists of different extremes.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, 6-10 is a helluva lot closer to 8-8 than 13-3. I honestly consider 13-3 to be pretty much middle-of-the-road. Extreme was whoever said 16-0 or if I said 15-1.

Given the Packer improvements, do you seriously see the Packers as worse than 10 or 8 or 6 or even 4 teams on the schedule? That just seems ridiculous to me. The only reason I could see them losing as many as 3 is the principle of "shit happens".

[Fritz]

Well, 6-10 is a helluva lot closer to 8-8 than 13-3. I honestly consider 13-3 to be pretty much middle-of-the-road. Extreme was whoever said 16-0 or if I said 15-1.

Given the Packer improvements, do you seriously see the Packers as worse than 10 or 8 or 6 or even 4 teams on the schedule? That just seems ridiculous to me. The only reason I could see them losing as many as 3 is the principle of "shit happens".

The way I see it, you have a new head coach, a new offensive system, and while on paper the defense is upgraded, it remains to be seen if the free agent signees pan out and whether Rashan Gary can play any better than Reggie Gilbert when the bullets are flying. In addition, you've got a completely unproven offensive line coach, ditto special teams coach, as well as inexperience in other coaching positions.

Plus, if you look back at the success rate of new offenses in their first years of installation, that first year can be a little rough.

I think that Gutekunst himself is pointing toward next year. He did, after all, put both St. Brown and Sternberger on IR.

So I don't think 6 - 10 is ridiculous, especially given the tendency to injury that Bulaga, King and others (should we include Aaron Rodgers?) have displayed.

[mraynrand]

I hope you like dirt, Tex.

Dirt?

[texaspackerbacker]

Gary better than Gilbert? I'd say the jury is still out on that, but the Smith boys are performance proven. They could bomb out with the Packers, but that would seem to be pretty unlikely. And Amos over Clinton-Dix? Who even among the negativists thinks that is not in our favor? Also, I am not sure, but I don't think Alexander played much of a part in last year's opening game.

The goodness as well as the badness of going to a new offensive system is greatly overrated - IMO.

IRing St. Brown solved the numbers problem of too many WRs. In fact, he did not look near as good as Lazard in the preseason. Sternberger, as I understand the rules, can come back from IR at some point if he is ok. I don't see either of those moves - or anything else - as "pointing toward next year".

What I said was ridiculous was not necessarily your prediction, but the idea that the Packers are actually "worse" than 10, 8, 6, even 4 teams on their schedule. Who other than maybe K.C. do you see fitting that description?

[Smidgeon]

The way I see it, you have a new head coach, a new offensive system, and while on paper the defense is upgraded, it remains to be seen if the free agent signees pan out and whether Rashan Gary can play any better than Reggie Gilbert when the bullets are flying. In addition, you've got a completely unproven offensive line coach, ditto special teams coach, as well as inexperience in other coaching positions.

Plus, if you look back at the success rate of new offenses in their first years of installation, that first year can be a little rough.

I think that Gutekunst himself is pointing toward next year. He did, after all, put both St. Brown and Sternberger on IR.

So I don't think 6 - 10 is ridiculous, especially given the tendency to injury that Bulaga, King and others (should we include Aaron Rodgers?) have displayed.

Wow. A non-emotional assessment of where Gary's actually at.

Fritz, are you okay?

[pbmax]

Dirt?

Tex mentioned someone getting their nose rubbed in their bad prediction.

[mraynrand]

Tex mentioned someone getting their nose rubbed in their bad prediction.

Right, but it won't be rubbed in dirt.