OK, who wants Minkah Fitzpatrick?

[call_me_ishmael]

As for the suggestion of trading King, I don't think that will happen. I saw LaFleur and McCarren discussing King's play last week, and LaFleur was very excited about how well King had played. He said the plan had been to limit King to about 20 plays, but he was playing so well they couldn't take him out, and he ended up playing over 40 plays. Said King was a big reason why they were able to do what they did on defense. McCarren said with King being out so much last year, it is easy to forget how very physical he is with WRs, but he showed it against the Bears..

I don't think it will happen either, but would you make the deal King for Minkah straight up if available?

[pbmax]

Jason LaCanfora, Dolphins still looking for first round pick.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dolphins-likely-to-trade-minkah-fitzpatrick-with-several-teams-interested-but-theres-no-mutiny-in-miami/

According to league sources, roughly 20 teams have reached out to Segal and/or the Dolphins about Fitzpatrick, with the team seeking a future first-round pick for him at this point. The asking price could change depending on the strength of the offers.

This smells like an agent leak and I highly doubt 20 teams are seriously interested.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, the 0-2 Steelers with a hurt quarterback so likely to sorta suck this year traded for Minkah. I am surprised since their top 10 pick holds more value as a future QB to them. That said, it's hard to argue with the Bobble logic of you get this cat under control for 4 years at a cheap rate and he's a stud player where you're unlikely to get a better palyer with the pick.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wow, the 0-2 Steelers with a hurt quarterback so likely to sorta suck this year traded for Minkah. I am surprised since their top 10 pick holds more value as a future QB to them. That said, it's hard to argue with the Bobble logic of you get this cat under control for 4 years at a cheap rate and he's a stud player where you're unlikely to get a better palyer with the pick.

Pittsburgh's defense is such a mess, they need all the help they can get.

[bobblehead]

Wow, the 0-2 Steelers with a hurt quarterback so likely to sorta suck this year traded for Minkah. I am surprised since their top 10 pick holds more value as a future QB to them. That said, it's hard to argue with the Bobble logic of you get this cat under control for 4 years at a cheap rate and he's a stud player where you're unlikely to get a better palyer with the pick.

Funny thing is, that of anyone I know (this board included) I was more all in on getting this guy...yet I don't think I would have traded that pick for him unless I truly believed Mason Rudolf is the future.

[run pMc]

According to Cameron Wolfe of ESPN.com, the Dolphins are getting a first-round and fifth-round pick for the 2020 NFL Draft and a sixth-round pick in 2021 from Pittsburgh in exchange for Fitzpatrick, a fourth-round pick in 2020 and a seventh-round pick in 2021

Minkah was the 11th pick. What are the odds PIT's R1 is @11 or lower? Seems like a good trade for MIA to me...they aren't playing him a lot now, plus they basically will get a redo on drafting with an additional high R1 pick.

[Teamcheez1]

Even if we had offered our 1st round pick, Miami would be better off taking the Steelers. It's unlikely that our pick will be in the top half of the draft, while the Steelers have a great chance of picking in the top 10.

If we were in a parallel situation with Rodgers out for the season, I wouldn't want Gute to trade away our 1st round pick.

[run pMc]

It's a weird trade, especially when you consider they gave up a 2020 R3 as part of the trade up to get Devin Bush. Is the 2020 draft crop that bad? PIT is 0-2 with an aging starter QB on IR, they are pretty much heading towards needing some major rebuilding and giving up picks is a little iffy. I guess maybe they will have a good defense and... uh... assume Rothlisberger is still gonna be around in 2021? No idea, but they don't look like a threat to the Ravens or (maybe) the Browns.

[Fritz]

Wow, the 0-2 Steelers with a hurt quarterback so likely to sorta suck this year traded for Minkah. I am surprised since their top 10 pick holds more value as a future QB to them. That said, it's hard to argue with the Bobble logic of you get this cat under control for 4 years at a cheap rate and he's a stud player where you're unlikely to get a better palyer with the pick.

I think the fact that Roethlisberger is out for the year, and is aging, makes this a good point. At 0-2, it's looking like a top-15 pick, which is conceivably new-quarterback territory - you could perhaps move up if you needed to.

The big upside to Pittsburgh is that they have a young guy at cheap cost for three or four more years - and they know already he's a very good NFL player. Even when teams draft high (say, at #12) there's no guarantee the guy your draft is going to be a very good NFL player (rah...rah....rah - raSHAN! Oh, pardon my sneeze!). They know Fitzpatrick is a legit NFL player at a high level. Nonetheless, from this vantage point it looks like Pittsburgh picked up a fine starting safety while gambling that Roethlisberger will be healthy and effective for at least two more years after this one.

[bobblehead]

They believe Rudolph is the future at QB. They are building a typical past steelers team. Game manager. Strong D. Run hard.

[mraynrand]

Pittsburgh's defense is such a mess, they need all the help they can get.

Not too strange how a terrible injury to a key player can just decimate a defense. Even though it's still got good parts, they still haven't recovered from losing Shazier. And Bush doesn't replace him; not the same kind of LB. They have a lot to figure out on defense still, and they are a wreck on offense.