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  • #46
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    For the hundredth time I ask if you even watch the games. Rodgers hitting 7-8 different guys a game. Hitting RBs and TEs underneath early to loosen up the coverages. You think this is a Flower accommodating Rodgers??
    Either by design or convincing (probably both, Jones scored a 20 yard TD on a corner/flag route, when was the last time you saw that in GB?) Flower has completely revamped the short game and made it more effective. Rodgers, with increased usage, has gotten that short throw problem under control.

    I do think they are in shotgun more than originally planned and I suspect that is for Rodgers and the inside zone combo.

    Frankly, seeing him under center AND in shotgun is good. More for defense to prep for. Despite not being great at outside zone, those 2 receiver routes off it have been productive.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      Larger HALF??
      Colloquialism. Far less fun to talk about the 4.3% larger piece.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        This is the area I give Rodgers the most credit. The one knock on the McVay/Shannahan model is weakness in the Redzone. ARod might be the best redzone QB I have ever seen.
        Hmmm.... didn’t think of this. And props to MLF for leaning on Aaron’s experience and know how in this area. Props to Aaron for trying new things and discovering that some of them work. Just two guys getting better at their craft. Cool to see.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          This is the area I give Rodgers the most credit. The one knock on the McVay/Shannahan model is weakness in the Redzone. ARod might be the best redzone QB I have ever seen.
          Except for the Philly game. My god that was an abomination down in the red zone that game.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            For the hundredth time I ask if you even watch the games. Rodgers hitting 7-8 different guys a game. Hitting RBs and TEs underneath early to loosen up the coverages. You think this is a Flower accommodating Rodgers??
            You seriously think it is not? Rodgers has always spread it around to a lot of receivers - taking what the defense gives you. Passing first to set up occasional runs is absolutely accommodating Rodgers - riding him to victory. Even McCarthy didn't do that enough. If LaFleur subordinates his ego and keeps this up, it's gonna be a great offensive season - a great season in general if the D snaps back.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by esoxx View Post
              Except for the Philly game. My god that was an abomination down in the red zone that game.
              yup. But Rodgers is already much better at the RPO, even if they don't use it all that often. He executed it perfectly on his TD run. Like a triple threat...

              "At the age of 25 I took up tap dancing. I wanted to be a quadruple threat, kind of like a despotic Ken Berry. Dancer, singer, actor, and I would possess nuclear weapons, the latter being the most threatening of the four."

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJj4wbmAhk
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              • #52
                I do think they are in shotgun more than originally planned and I suspect that is for Rodgers and the inside zone combo.
                I noticed this too...seems like there are some drives where they are in shotgun a lot. I'd bet the shotgun numbers are down but efficiency in shotgun is way up. Hard to compare to last year since his broken leg basically forced them into a lot of shotgun.
                Last season it seemed like Rodgers missed/ignored a lot of open receivers (i.e., taking what the defense gave) and was going for shot plays. That offense looked like someone fitting a square peg into a round hole.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  yup. But Rodgers is already much better at the RPO, even if they don't use it all that often. He executed it perfectly on his TD run. Like a triple threat...

                  "At the age of 25 I took up tap dancing. I wanted to be a quadruple threat, kind of like a despotic Ken Berry. Dancer, singer, actor, and I would possess nuclear weapons, the latter being the most threatening of the four."

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJj4wbmAhk
                  Ken Berry was an underrated talent.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                    Ken Berry was an underrated talent.
                    Judging by rerun TV on UHF channels in my youth. they made 5,193 episodes of Mayberry RFD.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      You seriously think it is not? Rodgers has always spread it around to a lot of receivers - taking what the defense gives you. Passing first to set up occasional runs is absolutely accommodating Rodgers - riding him to victory. Even McCarthy didn't do that enough. If LaFleur subordinates his ego and keeps this up, it's gonna be a great offensive season - a great season in general if the D snaps back.
                      In games in previous seasons, it looked like there would be one or two receivers getting the bulk of the throws plus a back for dump offs. What we saw Sunday was very balanced. Everyone who caught a pass caught at least two. No receiver was targeted more than five times. Yes Adams is out, but even so in the past things would not have been so balanced. If they keep this balanced approach when Adams is fully healthy, this offense will be nearly unstoppable.
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                      • #56
                        Adams ha$ 111 catches and 169 targets in 2018. We had roughly 600 passing plays last year. Davante was targeted almost 30% of the time.

                        Complete balance tpb.
                        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                        -Tim Harmston

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                        • #57
                          Rodgers spread it around when he had Driver, Jennings, Jones and Jordy. Who wouldn't? But the last couple of years he's talked several times about wanting to get it to Adams even more. That's somewhat understandable, but I think you're always better if the opposing defense can't focus on one guy.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Rodgers spread it around when he had Driver, Jennings, Jones and Jordy. Who wouldn't? But the last couple of years he's talked several times about wanting to get it to Adams even more. That's somewhat understandable, but I think you're always better if the opposing defense can't focus on one guy.
                            Absolutely. And it doesn’t hurt that those two have so much experience doing it the hard way, cuz there are moments when that’s the only way.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #59
                              Really cool mic’d up video at Packers.com. Lafleur really has built an atmosphere where guys just love to play and love to dominate. Really cool clip if ya’s care to look.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #60
                                My favorite two parts of football are 1. The feeling of crushing an opponent. And 2. The connectedness of doing it as a team. I’m fast becoming a Lafleur fan.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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