Fackrell vs Gary

[mraynrand]

What's your point? Once you are on a team, no one cares how you got there or when you were drafted.

I care.

Gary was drafted after his Junior year. I see that he's not ready. I see that they are grooming him to play OLB and line positions. It's certainly a possibility he may never be ready, and he isn't exactly coming out of the gate like LT or anything, but maybe he'll become dominant at some point. As far as the team leadership goes, there are two general extreme possibilities: They know he's a project and it will take time to develop him, or they already know he's a bust and are basically playing him as little as possible because they have no other warm bodies. I can't tell the difference yet. Need more games.

[mraynrand]

For all the grief Martinez gets, I see him as basically Hawk but drafted at the right round.

exactly

[Bretsky]

Through seven games:

Fackrell - 155 snaps, 9 tackles, 1/2 sack
Gary - 118 snaps, 10 tackles, 1 sack.

This Thread really saddens me

[Bretsky]

You have to land a hit when you have a top 1st round pick. They're paid more and you've invested significantly more draft capital on that player where they BETTER produce at a higher rate. Look, I hope Gary still ends up panning out. However, I didn't like him prior to the draft and what he's done so far hasn't changed my mind. I hope I'm wrong.

[Bretsky]

imagine what Metcalf would look like about now in GB.

Tank was Right

[George Cumby]

Jayzuz.

Give him some time.

[mraynrand]

Jayzuz.

Give him some time.

Time is a luxury you don't have, Admiral.

[mraynrand]

Tank was Right

The Metcalf takes are all emotion based

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[George Cumby]

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

[Bretsky]

The Metcalf takes are all emotion based

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On ONE hand you are 100% right; but truth be told there are probably 25 guys we'd all gladly take over Baconitor right now who were drafted lower. But it's always fun to point out when Tank might be right.

On the OTHER hand, there would be a pretty big bus of fans in support of a Metcalf for Gary deal right now.

[Bretsky]

Jayzuz.

Give him some time.

He's a top 12 pick; instant gratification is reasonable.

[ThunderDan]

On ONE hand you are 100% right; but truth be told there are probably 25 guys we'd all gladly take over Baconitor right now who were drafted lower. But it's always fun to point out when Tank might be right.

On the OTHER hand, there would be a pretty big bus of fans in support of a Metcalf for Gary deal right now.

Until Metcalf fumbled away the Seattle Baltimore game last week. Then he would have been crucified here.

[Packers4Glory]

I would take Hollywood Brown over Gary as well. Injury being hindsight but he’s a stud. I’d have taken him 1st over metcalf. Both would be better options then Gary & better fits considering the cash we paid in the Smiths & still retaining our sack leader from last year.

Gary was a bad pick on a team that needs weapons. We bought defense. Needed to draft some offensive weapons.

AJ Brown is another guy i think would be making an impact on this team with no clear cut #2 or 3 WR behind Adams.

Allison is terrible.

[Packers4Glory]

Until Metcalf fumbled away the Seattle Baltimore game last week. Then he would have been crucified here.

Young players make mistakes. Still not as das Shepard with his feet in headlights plays. The fact he made the team shows how bad this group is.

[Bretsky]

I would take Hollywood Brown over Gary as well. Injury being hindsight but he’s a stud. I’d have taken him 1st over metcalf. Both would be better options then Gary & better fits considering the cash we paid in the Smiths & still retaining our sack leader from last year.

Gary was a bad pick on a team that needs weapons. We bought defense. Needed to draft some offensive weapons.

AJ Brown is another guy i think would be making an impact on this team with no clear cut #2 or 3 WR behind Adams.

Allison is terrible.

There were some nice OL there as well