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  • Biggest threat to GB in the NFC

    At the halfway point the Packers are tied for second-best record in the conference, a game behind San Francisco and a game ahead of Minnesota and Seattle.

    We knew the Saints and Vikings would be good, and with Russell Wilson the Seasquawks aren't a huge surprise. Nobody, however, expected the 49ers to be undefeated and three games ahead of the Rams in the loss column at this point.

    It was easy to write the 49ers success off as product of a weak schedule. But now they have beaten two good teams in convincing fashion and the cold hard numbers say they are not just the best team in the conference but the best in the league.

    Simple Rating System rankings as of 10/28

    49ers 17.1
    Pats 15.5
    Packers 8.7
    Vikings 7.4
    Chefs 7.3
    Saints 6.0
    Rams 5.7
    .....
    Squawks 0.1 (#17)

    17.1 is historically great, better than '85 Bears and second only to 2007 Patriots. I haven't watched the 49ers, but on paper they don't look like all that: Garoppolo's numbers are just average, nobody really jumps out at you on offense, and even if the defense is great, that shouldn't put them much above the 2018 Bears. I would expect 49ers to come down to earth
    in the second half of the season, but there' a very good chance Packers won't get a first-round bye and would have to win road games at both New Orleans and Santa Clara to get to the SB. Good luck.

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    You play the schedule you're given, and outside a few really terrible teams, most teams are pretty close talent-wise. Confidence has a lot to do with winning, and the 49ers have a lot of it right now.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by hoosier View Post
      At the halfway point the Packers are tied for second-best record in the conference, a game behind San Francisco and a game ahead of Minnesota and Seattle.

      We knew the Saints and Vikings would be good, and with Russell Wilson the Seasquawks aren't a huge surprise. Nobody, however, expected the 49ers to be undefeated and three games ahead of the Rams in the loss column at this point.

      It was easy to write the 49ers success off as product of a weak schedule. But now they have beaten two good teams in convincing fashion and the cold hard numbers say they are not just the best team in the conference but the best in the league.

      Simple Rating System rankings as of 10/28

      49ers 17.1
      Pats 15.5
      Packers 8.7
      Vikings 7.4
      Chefs 7.3
      Saints 6.0
      Rams 5.7
      .....
      Squawks 0.1 (#17)

      17.1 is historically great, better than '85 Bears and second only to 2007 Patriots. I haven't watched the 49ers, but on paper they don't look like all that: Garoppolo's numbers are just average, nobody really jumps out at you on offense, and even if the defense is great, that shouldn't put them much above the 2018 Bears. I would expect 49ers to come down to earth
      in the second half of the season, but there' a very good chance Packers won't get a first-round bye and would have to win road games at both New Orleans and Santa Clara to get to the SB. Good luck.
      I think New Orleans is the class of the NFC, and probably even the NFL. 5-0 with your backup QB, and his name isn't even Taysom Hill? Wow.

      Haven't seen San Fran play, so I don't know much. Still can't stand Pete Carroll and the Seachickens.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #4
        Watched about half the SF vs Carolina game. SF defense is the real deal. Shanahan has the offense clicking with the outside zone.
        Their main RB averages over 5 a carry. Garoppolo has been efficient but not earth shattering. We'll have problems with them in SF.

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        • #5
          I have saint, Packers, 49ers about equal. Saints schedule is really easy to finish out. 49ers is hard and Packers is fairly hard too.

          Gonna be a battle
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #6
            Thinking about going to the @SF game. Just hoping they stay undefeated so it can be extra wild.

            Miner fans had been hibernating but are now out of their closet (pun intended) loud and proud.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
              Thinking about going to the @SF game. Just hoping they stay undefeated so it can be extra wild.

              Miner fans had been hibernating but are now out of their closet (pun intended) loud and proud.
              If they are both undefeated, I would recommend a Malbec and gouda for the tailgate... no - no - WAIT! go with Stag's Leap Merlot or Russian River Pinot. Yes, yes, that's perfect for an undefeated Nine tailgate.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                What you talking bout Willis? Packers already lost. I was referring to knocking off SF.

                You mistake Levi stadium for Candlestick. Bunch of San Jose thugs there now.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                  What you talking bout Willis? Packers already lost. I was referring to knocking off SF.

                  You mistake Levi stadium for Candlestick. Bunch of San Jose thugs there now.
                  I of course meant if SF was still undefeated. I've recovered from, but not forgotten the Philly debacle. Glad to see you can kick it with the homies in San Jose. Maybe take some NyQuill and Cheese Wiz (for cheese flavored nitro of course)?
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #10
                    The only kicking it will be my head when I get jumped. Thug life had already reared its head my last regular season game at Candlestick. I guess I was seen as a traitor for being a Packer backer. Classics pleasantries like “you think you’re white” or “ fucking sellout bandwagoner” hurled my way after Favre diced them up. I was in full gear so no hiding. I did notice White fans did not receive the same welcome. Guess we are always hardest on or own.

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                    • #11
                      #packerprivilege
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                        The only kicking it will be my head when I get jumped. Thug life had already reared its head my last regular season game at Candlestick. I guess I was seen as a traitor for being a Packer backer. Classics pleasantries like “you think you’re white” or “ fucking sellout bandwagoner” hurled my way after Favre diced them up. I was in full gear so no hiding. I did notice White fans did not receive the same welcome. Guess we are always hardest on or own.
                        You showed a pair wearing Packer gear. That shit is dangerous, no doubt.

                        Stay in neutral watching those road games.

                        I caught on ton of static in Indy for flying the green and gold.

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                        • #13
                          They know better then to mix it up with a crazy old mofo like you!

                          But back to the thread topic. I say SF. Seattle and NO just don’t seems as solid. Niners D is putting hurting on foolz. The offense is decent but will likely look great against the Pack D based on the last few weeks.

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                          • #14
                            You play the schedule your given, I agree, but their schedule has been trash. The Pack will slice them up.
                            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                            • #15
                              SF's DL is legit - they have 5 R1 picks: Dee Ford, Armstead, Thomas, Buckner and Bosa. That's a pretty good rotation, and they can stress a lot of teams.
                              The offense is mostly the run game and George Kittle, and those are areas that give GB problems. SF's WRs are ok...a lot of short quick guys (Goodwin is a burner, Richie James, Emmanuel Sanders, Dante Pettis). They're good enough to win with Shanahan's creativity, but I wonder how they'd do if you could press or play physical with them.

                              I think NO is playing very good -- their defense has played well and Brees is back. Michael Thomas is the man, and Kamara is a more talented Aaron Jones.

                              I'd put both of them above GB right now. MIN and SEA are right behind GB, and several other teams giving chase as well.
                              Minny has righted their ship but their schedule is going to get harder... at KC, at Dal, DEN, at SEA are their next 4.

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