Thompson’s last two drafts

[RashanGary]

Kenny Clark
Dean Lowry
Blake Martinez
Kyler Fackrell
2020 6th round pick for Davis

Kevin King
Mont Adams
Jamaal Williams
Aaron Jones



That’s not a bad 2 year haul. Clark, King and Jones all have future pro bowl potential. A bunch of good players there.

[RashanGary]

Those two draft classes panning out, plus the free agent spending spree and the coaching change made for a quick turn around.

[RashanGary]

Now how long does it last??

2018
Alexander
Josh Jackson
Oren Burks
Cole Madison
JK Scott
MVS
EQ
Hunter Bradley

2019
Gary
Savage
Jenkins
Sternberger
Keke
Hollman
D Williams
Summers


Looks like we have a chance to have 4 good ones in a row. That’s a good way to set up the back end of Rodgers career.

[pbmax]

Russ Ball is beaming with pride right now and updating his resume.

[RashanGary]

Russ Ball is beaming with pride right now and updating his resume.

Ball is getting paid good coin to hold down the silo. I don’t think he’s in a rush to go anywhere.

[texaspackerbacker]

The problem with Ted Thompson was not bad drafts - although there probably were some. The problem was being so damn stubbornly opposed to using free agency - as Gutekunst has done so successfully.

[australianpackerbacker]

The problem with Ted Thompson was not bad drafts - although there probably were some. The problem was being so damn stubbornly opposed to using free agency - as Gutekunst has done so successfully.

Thompsons other problem was not pushing coaches out the door that werent performing. He also had a few bad drafts right around the time when everyone was calling the Packers a finesse team. Then because of bad coaching, undervalued a few really good players(Hayward, Hyde, Randall) that eventually needed to be replaced with high draft picks that could have been utilized at other positions, hence decreasing our odds of striking on a blue chip player. So many variables at play.

The best receiver we have is a TT draft pick, that says a lot about the current state of the pass catchers.

[australianpackerbacker]

Now how long does it last??

2018
Alexander
Josh Jackson
Oren Burks
Cole Madison
JK Scott
MVS
EQ
Hunter Bradley

2019
Gary
Savage
Jenkins
Sternberger
Keke
Hollman
D Williams
Summers


Looks like we have a chance to have 4 good ones in a row. That’s a good way to set up the back end of Rodgers career.

Then you can add the free agent additions to that group also, which strengthens Gute's case.

[mraynrand]

The best receiver we have is a TT draft pick, that says a lot about the current state of the pass catchers.

It does?

[mraynrand]

Then you can add the free agent additions to that group also, which strengthens Gute's case.

TT was certainly more judicious in his use of the FA tool, but he also didn’t bankrupt the cap. Peppers was a great signing that should have netted a Lombardi, but in the end Peppers told Burnett to ‘slide’ instead of plunging in the dagger. TT can’t alter cowardice and trepidation on the field. I suppose he could have signed someone with more killer instinct than Peppers but who would that have been and at what cost?

TT really isn’t at fault for the demise of Collins or Finley and only partly to blame for the physical and mental collapse of Raji, Matthews (his brilliant 3-4 defense cornerstones), Fat Lacy (his answer to unchecked blitzing of Rodger/ cover 2 shell), or Nelson’s ACL/Rodger’s fractured shoulders.

Shit happens, even to the best laid plans of Sherman and men. Odds are that shit will happen to the 2019 squad as well and we’ll be crying in our beer (or fifths of whiskey if you’re Red) come January.

[Smidgeon]

Now how long does it last??

2018
Alexander
Josh Jackson
Oren Burks
Cole Madison
JK Scott
MVS
EQ
Hunter Bradley

2019
Gary
Savage
Jenkins
Sternberger
Keke
Hollman
D Williams
Summers


Looks like we have a chance to have 4 good ones in a row. That’s a good way to set up the back end of Rodgers career.

Still got a lot to prove in these last two drafts (bolded = good player)

[hoosier]

TT was certainly more judicious in his use of the FA tool, but he also didn’t bankrupt the cap. Peppers was a great signing that should have netted a Lombardi, but in the end Peppers told Burnett to ‘slide’ instead of plunging in the dagger. TT can’t alter cowardice and trepidation on the field. I suppose he could have signed someone with more killer instinct than Peppers but who would that have been and at what cost?

TT really isn’t at fault for the demise of Collins or Finley and only partly to blame for the physical and mental collapse of Raji, Matthews (his brilliant 3-4 defense cornerstones), Fat Lacy (his answer to unchecked blitzing of Rodger/ cover 2 shell), or Nelson’s ACL/Rodger’s fractured shoulders.

Shit happens, even to the best laid plans of Sherman and men. Odds are that shit will happen to the 2019 squad as well and we’ll be crying in our beer (or fifths of whiskey if you’re Red) come January.

Decision to slide was on Burnett too: nobody forced him to listen to the old man. Moral: cowardice infused itself into all aspects of TTs reign.

[run pMc]

I believe with Ty's trade during last year's 6-9-1 campaign noone from TT's 2015 remained. He (or the rest of personnel) might have gotten his last 2 drafts better, but he had a couple of real dogs that, combined with caution in FA market, negatively impacted the talent on the game day roster. Don't know if someone has actually gone thru all of TT's moves (trades, signings, etc.) and weighed how good they were, but when you average them out I'd say he was a pretty good evaluator and GM who started to lose his fastball.

Gute is off to a pretty good start -- as much for the Smith/Amos signings as the draft (where's he batting .500 on his R1-3 picks so far). Thus far dumping Daniels and Perry hasn't hurt them, nor has letting Clay/Cobb sign elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how they evaluate the team after the season and shore up the perceived weaknesses. I think they will be more draft-focused, not sure they have much cap space for FA.

[mraynrand]

Decision to slide was on Burnett too: nobody forced him to listen to the old man. Moral: cowardice infused itself into all aspects of TTs reign.

Ah, the soldier must know when to disobey an illegal/illegitimate order.

[Fritz]

Drafting is more art than science - we've bagged on Thompson for his Jason Spriggs/Josh Jones busts (among others), but Guter has Oren Burks and Josh Jackson as early-round busts (unless there's some crazy third-year leap). It ain't easy.

Remember too that this current iteration of the Packers, at 7-1, features an offense comprised of Thompson picks at both tackle spots and center, an All Pro receiver, a promising young guy (MVS), both running backs, and the quarterback.

Thompson's mistakes seem to be focused on not knowing when it was time to move on from certain coaches (Capers, then McCarthy), and when it was time to re-sign certain guys (Cook, Hyde).

And, as someone else posted, he did seem to lose his edge there the last few years.