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Some people enjoy watching athletes jump, while others enjoy watching them run. Others still enjoy watching them swim. A variety of athletic competitions are open to humans to participate in or to spectate."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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For some reason I am reminded of the time when certain posters were trying to master the Woodbuck style. A PR version of the Bad Hemingway Contest. Not an easy feat.
Excerpt from "Big Too-Hardened Liver" (1991 Bad Hemingway winner)
We were drinking at the bar in Harry’s when it exploded.
It was early morning and the sun was bright and painful and rising on the tall glass towers when the rocket exploded to announce the release of the bulls and so we all rushed out to see the big and brave and mature and viciously horny bulls toss the television executives as they came up the escalators.
Harry brought out light appetizers and the good champagne. I had the prosciutto, which lay very fine and lean on the plate and the melon was sweet and ripe and the flesh reminded you of a woman you had known. Perhaps you had not really known her and if she went tart on you then all you noticed was the ripeness and so you thump-thumped her and then perhaps you forgot about that business with the prosciutto.
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Originally posted by hoosier View PostFor some reason I am reminded of the time when certain posters were trying to master the Woodbuck style. A PR version of the Bad Hemingway Contest. Not an easy feat.Going to be laughing at this all day.We were drinking at the bar in Harry’s when it exploded.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Speaking of the human drama of athletic competition, CBS is still calling its weekend wraparound shows 'CBS Sports Spectacular'.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostSome people enjoy watching athletes jump, while others enjoy watching them run. Others still enjoy watching them swim. A variety of athletic competitions are open to humans to participate in or to spectate.
But neither ABC or CBS Sports has been the same since the Tour de France went to live coverage of their IV drips.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Your first sentence. Yes. But you may be underestimating how hard it can be for a foreigner, because youve grown up eating NFL football. What you "summarized" as just strengths and weaknesses, is minimized in your mind because you grew up on a steady diet of football and you love the game. What i see from foreign players is that they never truly get this aspect. Among many other variables, percentages of players converting are also key, youre not really getting the best of the best, there are better athletes that choose not to play NFL football because they make way more money than the guys that come to the NFL trying to make it.Originally posted by Radagast View PostAmerican football can indeed at times be a chess match, but for the most part it is a matter of discovering your opponents strengths/weaknesses and then curbing those strengths as you take advantage of their weaknesses.
Let's say an opposing team has a top 3 rated RB that has made fools of defenses, yet their QB and receivers are below average. You use minimum resources to cover the receivers and keep more defensive assets near the line to stop their greatest threat. However, as many have posted about, your offense has a well balanced run/pass attack, then an opposing defense must respect both and can't station more resources to focus on one area or the other will take expose the weakness and take advantage of it.
Many see American football as a somewhat military style contest. Your team gains ground with strategically coordinated plays designed to use deversions, physical matchups, and precision strikes to march down the gridiron and capture/score in the opponents end zone.
Others see it, and correctly so at times, a chess match. Two closely matched teams often do use gambits to lure an opponent into believing one thing as you attack in some unexpected way. More often playoff games feature more closely matched teams and the mental side of the game is stressed more.
Still others are more interested in individual matchups or the plays where a player rises above what we normally see. WR Odell Beckham JR. is an elite WR, but he became famous for one handed circus catches that simply must be seen in slow motion to fully appreciate. QB Aaron Rodgers' ability to throw a football pass 40 to 50 yards and place it perfectly into a full speed receivers hands with near 0 room for error is like watching a high wire act. Not to forget the defensive players, a great pick or a sack can be a beautiful thing to see.
American football can range from a battle of defenses to a last man standing scoring contest. Dramatic goal line stands, big running/passing plays, last second Field Goal victories, and crushing turnovers make the game an intricate ever changing stage where no one can say just what might happen. Few like NE's Belichick or other coaching professionals know fully understand and apply every rule, trick, or past forgotten strategy. In this way the game can still surprise even the most savvy fan.
Your second sentence. Try and explain these concepts you and i deeply understand to someone who hasnt grown up thinking like me and you. The only reason i understand NFL football on the level i do is because i put in the work, it wasnt work ever because i LOVED it. And also, there are way too many variables at play to blow your plan up. The nature of growing in life is to try and fail at everything that doesnt work until you find a way/technique that doesnt. And you build from that. This is also called experience. Your story about how it should work will get blown up in practice, simply for you to learn how to navigate past that and grow.
I agree but from my perspective the idea of WAR or MILITARY doesnt enter my mind, rather the battle of wills and pysches is powerful enough to lure me, but this is also true for any elite competetive sport. Including Tennis. The game within the game. The only difference is when i was younger and super angry at life, i loved watching big guys at their physical peak beating the shit out of each other, whilst still playing chess to boot.
The rest you posted, i agree with. Which is WHY we watch the games, cos we dont know whats coming.
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Originally posted by australianpackerbacker View PostYour first sentence. Yes. But you may be underestimating how hard it can be for a foreigner, because youve grown up eating NFL football. What you "summarized" as just strengths and weaknesses, is minimized in your mind because you grew up on a steady diet of football and you love the game. What i see from foreign players is that they never truly get this aspect. Among many other variables, percentages of players converting are also key, youre not really getting the best of the best, there are better athletes that choose not to play NFL football because they make way more money than the guys that come to the NFL trying to make it.
Your second sentence. Try and explain these concepts you and i deeply understand to someone who hasnt grown up thinking like me and you. The only reason i understand NFL football on the level i do is because i put in the work, it wasnt work ever because i LOVED it. And also, there are way too many variables at play to blow your plan up. The nature of growing in life is to try and fail at everything that doesnt work until you find a way/technique that doesnt. And you build from that. This is also called experience. Your story about how it should work will get blown up in practice, simply for you to learn how to navigate past that and grow.
I agree but from my perspective the idea of WAR or MILITARY doesnt enter my mind, rather the battle of wills and pysches is powerful enough to lure me, but this is also true for any elite competetive sport. Including Tennis. The game within the game. The only difference is when i was younger and super angry at life, i loved watching big guys at their physical peak beating the shit out of each other, whilst still playing chess to boot.
The rest you posted, i agree with. Which is WHY we watch the games, cos we dont know whats coming.
Enjoyed your post.
Allow me to relate a personal story.
When I was between 8 and 11 years old, I and the neighborhood lads played football together. However with just 5 or 8 of us, teams were rarely chosen. Instead we played what we called "fumble ball". The game was very close to Rugby (or Australian Rules Football). One player throw the ball into midst of the rest and then all would swarm to tackle to one who had the football. With no helmets or padding bruises were to be expected. In fact, I received my very first ever real concussion one day playing this boy's game. It does not mean I understand "Rugby", but I do hold a greater appreciation for the sport. Soccer on the other hand was never played. The only time we kicked a round ball was when we played "Kickball" with the local boys and the local girls. It's similar to baseball but played with a round ball that gets kicked instead batted with a bat as in Baseball.
Point is, many of the things we do when very young can influence our interest latter in life. Was / is American Football viewed down under via satellite?sigpic
If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !
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Thank you for your sharing. And i agree with you, and i cant claim to know too much about you besides the tone and energy of your posts, but a lot of what i say still stands. And in many ways youve confirmed what ive expressed, and maybe i just wasnt clear enough in the explanation of my point of view.Originally posted by Radagast View PostEnjoyed your post.
Allow me to relate a personal story.
When I was between 8 and 11 years old, I and the neighborhood lads played football together. However with just 5 or 8 of us, teams were rarely chosen. Instead we played what we called "fumble ball". The game was very close to Rugby (or Australian Rules Football). One player throw the ball into midst of the rest and then all would swarm to tackle to one who had the football. With no helmets or padding bruises were to be expected. In fact, I received my very first ever real concussion one day playing this boy's game. It does not mean I understand "Rugby", but I do hold a greater appreciation for the sport. Soccer on the other hand was never played. The only time we kicked a round ball was when we played "Kickball" with the local boys and the local girls. It's similar to baseball but played with a round ball that gets kicked instead batted with a bat as in Baseball.
Point is, many of the things we do when very young can influence our interest latter in life. Was / is American Football viewed down under via satellite?
American football these days in Australia is easy to watch. GamePass, live streaming, you can even stream for free.
I agree, the many things we do in life early in life, can influence the totality of our lives. Which proves my point even further in my eyes. You gotta love the game.
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Originally posted by australianpackerbacker View PostThank you for your sharing. And i agree with you, and i cant claim to know too much about you besides the tone and energy of your posts, but a lot of what i say still stands. And in many ways youve confirmed what ive expressed, and maybe i just wasnt clear enough in the explanation of my point of view.
American football these days in Australia is easy to watch. GamePass, live streaming, you can even stream for free.
I agree, the many things we do in life early in life, can influence the totality of our lives. Which proves my point even further in my eyes. You gotta love the game.
If I may ask, how long have you been an American Football fan and what caused you to like the Packers over any of the other 31 NFL Teams?sigpic
If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !
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Sounds like "Smear the queer" or 'shinny' in hockey when you don't have enough players for teams.Originally posted by Radagast View PostWhen I was between 8 and 11 years old, I and the neighborhood lads played football together. However with just 5 or 8 of us, teams were rarely chosen. Instead we played what we called "fumble ball". The game was very close to Rugby (or Australian Rules Football). One player throw the ball into midst of the rest and then all would swarm to tackle to one who had the football."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Since i waw 8 Y.O. 24 Years of intense love and study. At one point i was so deep in love with NFL football i decided to start gambling cos i was co certain of the outcome of each and every game, this was 2011 also, when our team was just impossible to beat, i correctly picked 37 out of 41 games. The problem with that though, was that my losses mitigated my wins, cos i was betting 10k a pop on easy odds of 1.2, 1.15 etc. The times i lost was when i bet 10k on the Packers to beat the Vikings by 7 in Minnesota and they were killing them, but Mr Ponder had other ideas in the second half, and the game ended 33-27. Ouch. I also lost the Chiefs bet that year. The year after i was still cocky enough to play the game, when Rod went down with a collarbone to a fellow Wisconsinite.Originally posted by Radagast View PostIf I may ask, how long have you been an American Football fan and what caused you to like the Packers over any of the other 31 NFL Teams?
But it also took the excitement out of the game cos it ended up being about the money and not about the love. Good lessons all around, and at the end of the day, i didnt make a dime. Injuries are hard to predict. In australia we can bet on the NFL, and the odds are really good. For example, i knew the Packers were gonna win in CHI earlier this year, and they have odds that are based like this, 1-13 points for a packers win equals 2.5 or 2.8 return. 13+ equals 3.8 or sometimes more. Most NFL games come within a touchdown. So theyre almost betting that you dont understand the game well enough to win.
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Communism, some of its roots are based in the concept of fairness and unity for all. The practical application however speaks otherwise. Socialism over time has been branded to portray a person who believes everyone should have the ability to live their lives equally with another.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostAre you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?
Americana democracy has been portrayed as a savior, a "fight for freedom" and "they hate us cos were free" whilst labelling everything alternative that could help us grow, as lunacy. But Americans arent living in democracy, they are actually living in a pseudo kleptocracy, whilst conceptually speaking about democracy throughout. The game within the game..
Listen and watch what the DO, not what they SAY. The dishonesty and lies are realy obvious when you have the ability to take a step back, breathe, and really look at whats going on. Takes courage not to follow the herd mentality into mental and emotional slavery.
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