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    Chicago views Poppinga as Packers' weakest link on defense
    By BOB McGINN
    bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Sept. 11, 2006
    Green Bay - Not many linebackers in Green Bay over the past few years have been taken advantage of quite to the extent that Brady Poppinga was victimized Sunday by the Chicago Bears.

    Still a certifiable project at outside linebacker, Poppinga allowed tight end Desmond Clark to have a field day at his expense in the Bears' 26-0 rout of the Packers at Lambeau Field.

    "They came after me," the strong-side linebacker said. "They got me. I'm not going to deny that."

    Clark, a pedestrian eight-year veteran, finished with five receptions for 77 yards, and all of the damage came against Poppinga. The Bears generally have been devoid of production from the tight end since Emery Moorehead enjoyed some decent seasons in the 1980s.

    Before that, you'd have to go back to Hall of Famer Mike Ditka in the 1960s to find a dominant tight end.

    The Bears probably took one look at the Packers' defense on exhibition tape, saw Poppinga trying to make the move to linebacker from his time at Brigham Young generally spent as a defensive end and decided to see if he could cover.

    At times, offensive coordinator Ron Turner was successful moving the 245-pound Poppinga into space by shifting Clark to a split-receiver position. He caught a hitch for 5 yards from that formation.

    Most of Clark's damage, however, came from conventional sets when he simply beat Poppinga.

    The biggest play to the one-time Denver Bronco was a 33-yard completion late in the first quarter. Poppinga gave Clark an inside release, didn't get a good jam and then had to chase futilely as Rex Grossman's long pass easily was completed over his head.

    "It's a man coverage so the help is inside," Poppinga said. "I have to get a better jam on him. When I jammed I lunged a little bit and got out of position. That's what created separation."

    After getting Poppinga in trail position, Clark then cut to the outside and really left him in the lurch.

    "At the very least I have to annoy him," Poppinga said. "When he made a cut outside and my help was inside, he was going to be wide open."

    In the second half, Grossman completed first-down passes of 19 and 11 yards to Clark in which the coverage by Poppinga was pretty good.

    "On both of them I thought I'd knocked them down," Poppinga said. "He just threaded the needle."

    The Packers have a veteran option on the strong side in former Brown Ben Taylor, who clearly is better in coverage than Poppinga. But Poppinga offers better speed, more robustness against the run and superior pass rush. Given the team's rebuilding mode, it's unlikely the coaches would start the veteran over a second-year player with promise.

    Poppinga, who will be 27 in 10 days, is married and the father of two. Uncommonly mature after having spent two years on a Mormon mission, he is eager for practice this week.

    "I believe God gives us weaknesses and we'll be humbled," he said. "He gives them to us so we'll have something to work toward. I think if I can turn this weakness into a strength, I can be one heck of a player."

    Based on unofficial press-box totals, Poppinga made seven solo tackles and one assist. He said his run fits and stoutness at the point of attack were solid and didn't recall missing a tackle.

    From the Sept. 11, 2006
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    Poppinga had 7 solo tackles and 1 assist today. Damn was he targeted.

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    • #3
      i just don't understand how the consensus is to keep poppinga on the field when his pass coverage skills are so horrendous. they had ahmad carroll in for him on passing downs but taylor needs to be the starter because he has more experience playing in the nfl. and experience is the one thing the packers desperately need on defense right now - all i saw was constant confusion and miscommunication in the back 7. counting popping, manuel, woodson and hawk they have 4 new bodies back there out of 7, obviously way too many right now. i say let taylor take over and work poppinga in slowly as his recognition improves...
      Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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      • #4
        It's too soon, way too soon, for this panicky stuff. Poppinga got beat bad when he didn't jam Clark, the other times he was right there but just missed batting the ball down. He's still new at this stuff - if he's not making plays by the bye, then get him out. But give him a few games, at least.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #5
          he was only "right there" cause the Bears saw he sucked, and took full advantage. Many Play Actions to Jones were suppose to be POOPinga's job also, but he got sucked into the backfield, and either Jones or McKie slid out into the flat where he was suppose to be. He should be pulled NOW. if he's a Project at 27, by the time he might be worth anything he's 30...move him to DE, then at least we don't need to see TE's running all over us...can't wait til we play a GOOD TE.
          "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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          • #6
            He made Desmond Clark into an all pro; he's just not ready to be a starter.
            And if you were at the game scanning the whole field of action Poppinga looked even worse in coverage. If throwing all the young guys into the pan to see how well they fry then I guess you keep him in; if you are trying to put your best team on the field to win now then you do not

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            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              yuppers, I was at the game and routinely held my breath...he was usually stuck in space, not knowing where to go, or sucked into the backfield.
              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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              • #8
                This is Poppinga's first game as a starter (well, maybe he started 1 game last year, I forget), he's coming off major surgery, and had limited practice time this summer.

                DO NOT GIVE UP ON POPPINGA! This is as ridiculous as saying Jennings ought to be benched because he had trouble in his first game.

                If around the 5th or 6th game, Poppinga still hasn't caught on, then make a switch.

                This is a rebuilding year, team has to make painful investment in young players, even if it ultimately doesn't pan-out in all cases.

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                • #9
                  Poppinga hasn't shown me anything to indicate he can start.

                  I'm not giving up on him; the announcement was puzzling as heck in the first place. He started one game last year and then I think another (Minnesota)before getting hurt. He was lost yesterday; I don't like seeing guys exposed that bad. He was not ready.

                  B
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #10
                    Poppinga is so far from where he needs to be to start, that it would actually inhibit his development to start the guy.

                    His confidence is at a low ebb. And his skills in coverage just qain't there. He's got a double problem, he doesn't know what to do & lacks the skill set to do his job.

                    He's gonna be 27 in a few days. I just don't know if he'll learn the position while he's still effective physically.

                    I know you always fight for the oppressed and root for the underdog.

                    But sometimes, the underdog needs a little suppression. This is one of those times. Pop just doesn't have what it takes to start in this league. In a year or two, maybe, but not now.

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                    • #11
                      i don't get way a change wasn't made during the game. they saw we had a weak spot, they went after. we had to notice that our guy was a weak spot that was being attacked and burned.

                      why wasn't taylor brought in at that point? he was the starter all preseason and proved to be pretty reliable. why not put him in and see if he could do better, he certainly couldn't do worse in coverage

                      we're starting to get that sherman look, like if the thing we planned for all week doesn't work out, we'll have no clue how to fix the problem during the game

                      did we try to double muchy, after he started to burn us left and right? i think we just kept manning up on him

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KYPack
                        Pop just doesn't have what it takes to start in this league. In a year or two, maybe, but not now.
                        In two years he'll be getting ready to retire! It's now or never. You say never, I say now.

                        I know you don't like Poppinga a whole lot. I want to give him a few games, he's flashed enough to me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KYPack
                          Poppinga is so far from where he needs to be to start, that it would actually inhibit his development to start the guy.

                          I'm with you on this. People need to earn starts, and not just be handed them based on youth and/or potential. Not that Popp is any spring chicken.

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                          • #14
                            Poppinga will be fine... I haven't watched the tape yet, but I did watch him a little bit.

                            From what I payed attention to, he played the run very tough, disengaged from blockers very well, and moved pretty well in space. His deficiencies in coverage will be addressed thru experience and improved technique.

                            I have no doubt that Poppinga will be a good player.
                            wist

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                            • #15
                              wist, I wish more of the nattling nabobs of negativism around here would adopt some of your optimistic spirit.

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