JS Poppinga Article

[KYPack]

Pop just doesn't have what it takes to start in this league. In a year or two, maybe, but not now.

In two years he'll be getting ready to retire! It's now or never. You say never, I say now.

I know you don't like Poppinga a whole lot. I want to give him a few games, he's flashed enough to me.

Well ya, we disagree on this one.

It isn't that I dislike Pop, I love the guy. We need a few more hustlers that wanna hit people the second they leave the locker room. He just ain't ready to be a starting SAM in the NFL.

He can help us on ST, situation substitution (3rd down rush mainly), and backup at SAM & Will. He might learn how to cover, but he won't learn coverage while getting his ass beat down after down. He needs film study with the staff and work at practice. His reads and technique are nowhere near where they need to be.

May be he'll never start, he's got a long way to go.

There is no sense asking a player to do a task he can't possibly accomplish. That's what starting Pop is doing, hurting the guy rather than teaching him.

[RIPackerFan]

You have to expect this from rookies and second year players. If we are going to play them, they are going to have bad games and make rookie mistakes.

This is a rebuilding year - and I have a feeling that they will not take any young guys out if they show potential.

While Poppinga didn't play well, he certainly did some good things.

He will be in the starting lineup this week.

[wist43]

wist, I wish more of the nattling nabobs of negativism around here would adopt some of your optimistic spirit.

Yeah, what's up with that???

You know we're in trouble if I'm the voice of optimism... lol.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He might learn how to cover, but he won't learn coverage while getting his ass beat down after down. He needs film study with the

Jennings got his ass kicked at the line of scrimmage yesterday. The Bears defensive backs schooled him with hard chucking.

Do you think Jennings is going to get better by benching him and having him watch film?

[Scott Campbell]

The difference with Jennings is that he doesn't have anybody behind him pushing for PT.

[Scott Campbell]

wist, I wish more of the nattling nabobs of negativism around here would adopt some of your optimistic spirit.

Yeah, what's up with that???

You know we're in trouble if I'm the voice of optimism... lol.

Yeah, what the hell happened? You're like Tony Robbins now.

[Fritz]

If we can all just admit it's a rebuilding year, maybe things will be easier to take. Let's see what Pop's got in the next four games - whether he has the capability or not.

[Bretsky]

He might learn how to cover, but he won't learn coverage while getting his ass beat down after down. He needs film study with the

Jennings got his ass kicked at the line of scrimmage yesterday. The Bears defensive backs schooled him with hard chucking.

Do you think Jennings is going to get better by benching him and having him watch film?

That's a silly comparison.

Jennings has nobody backing him up and has flasched 5x more ability in the preaseason that Pop has flashed as a Packer. Green Bay has an adequate player in Taylor sitting on the bench and a player with higher upside in Hodge sitting on the bench. Guys got a great name but what people see in him beyond the name and special teams is beyond me. I hope I'm proven wrong, but no way should this guy have started Sunday.
Blame the player...blame the coaches...but we put a guy on the field who was NOWHERE near ready to start and the Bears played him like silly putty.

[Bretsky]

wist, I wish more of the nattling nabobs of negativism around here would adopt some of your optimistic spirit.

Yeah, what's up with that???

You know we're in trouble if I'm the voice of optimism... lol.

Is Tex really disguising himself as Wist ??

[KYPack]

He might learn how to cover, but he won't learn coverage while getting his ass beat down after down. He needs film study with the

Jennings got his ass kicked at the line of scrimmage yesterday. The Bears defensive backs schooled him with hard chucking.

Do you think Jennings is going to get better by benching him and having him watch film?

Two totally different situations.

Jennings needs to learn some technique to get off the line. He's not that far away from being an effective player.
Pop doesn't know what's happening and needs to have some basis for his covers. He's lost. He needs skull work to bring his level of play way up. He hurts the team if he starts at this stage of his career.

Good to see you posting, BTW.

[Bretsky]

If we can all just admit it's a rebuilding year, maybe things will be easier to take. Let's see what Pop's got in the next four games - whether he has the capability or not.

Admitting we are rebuilding is different than admitting we should put players in the starting lineup that are not ready.

But you are right; witnessing yesterday serves as a reality that we are nowhere near where we need to be; coming to that reality will make it easier to watch the rest of the year.

B

[Harlan Huckleby]

we put a guy on the field who was NOWHERE near ready to start and the Bears played him like silly putty.

nowhere near? now you're hyperventilating. I saw some replays where Pop did a good job in coverage. (I suppose that's rather faint praise, like congradulating Dick Cheney for the shots where he didn't hit his hunting partner.)

Pop was good enough to get a sniff at starter last year. The coach's are aware that they have a capable player in Taylor sitting behind him, obviously they see considerable upside or they wouldn't have stuck him on the field after so little practice time.

Give it a few games. Then you can say "I told you so" if Pop doesn't improve.

[red]

If we can all just admit it's a rebuilding year, maybe things will be easier to take. Let's see what Pop's got in the next four games - whether he has the capability or not.

Admitting we are rebuilding is different than admitting we should put players in the starting lineup that are not ready.

But you are right; witnessing yesterday serves as a reality that we are nowhere near where we need to be; coming to that reality will make it easier to watch the rest of the year.

B

reality is that we are two years into the rebuilding process, we had 35 million dollars to play with this offseason, and somehow we might be a worse team then we were last year

rebuilding DOES NOT take 5 years in todays nfl when you have the cap space

[red]

we put a guy on the field who was NOWHERE near ready to start and the Bears played him like silly putty.

nowhere near? now you're hyperventilating. I saw some replays where Pop did a good job in coverage. (I suppose that's rather faint praise, like congradulating Dick Cheney for the shots where he didn't hit his hunting partner.)

ROFL

[Patler]

From what I payed attention to, he ... moved pretty well in space.

I hope you aren't serious with that comment.

Poppinga's biggest problem is that in space he moves like a DE, which of course is what he was. He does not have the fluid movements a linebacker needs. He didn't have it last year before the injury, he doesn't have it know. Unless he can learn to jam and hold up a tightend, keeping him from getting into his route, Poppinga will always be a liability in pass coverage. He may improve, but he is unlikely to ever be good at it.