Can’t believe we’re 8-2

[RashanGary]

Pb, it might be personnel. Nelson and Jennings were upper tier or elite deep threats. We just don’t have that now. I don’t think it’s Rodgers

[pbmax]

Pb, it might be personnel. Nelson and Jennings were upper tier or elite deep threats. We just don’t have that now. I don’t think it’s Rodgers

Oh its definitely them to some extent. But given the limitations, they need to take fewer shots. Maybe cut it in half.

And when you do take them, start at your 40 or better. And not on 3rd and short very often.

[RashanGary]

Adams is a beast version of James Jones. He’s getting open and catching underneath routes better than any player Rodgers has ever played with. Consequently, AR looks better doing those things.

Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams are the first experienced, well rounded, talented running backs that AR can count on of his career. Consequently, AR looks better in getting them involved

MLF does seem to coach the run game with more passion than MM so it seems blocking from WRs and TEs is more inspired and purposeful, consequently, we break some more runs and AR is getting addicted to handing the ball off and watching his buddies get that run game adrenaline boost.

It’s just a different team, no??

[RashanGary]

Oh its definitely them to some extent. But given the limitations, they need to take fewer shots. Maybe cut it in half.

And when you do take them, start at your 40 or better. And not on 3rd and short very often.

I see what your saying. They do seem pressured. That does seem to be Rodgers too. When the deep stuff is really there, it’s wide open and easy. He’s really pressing to make it happen, it seems. However, it’s possible that by doing that he’s being intentional to make the defense play honest and open up short stuff.... maybe AR is a step ahead of us.

[Joemailman]

It seems a lot of these deep throws are underthrown. Not sure if Rodgers has lost arm strength or he's not stepping into is throws. I think it's the latter due to being under pressure.

[pbmax]

It seems a lot of these deep throws are underthrown. Not sure if Rodgers has lost arm strength or he's not stepping into is throws. I think it's the latter due to being under pressure.

He also overthrows them, though not in last two games. You can almost see in his throwing motion that he is adjusting up to the last second: more air under it, wait or throw harder.

Never used to have that in motion adjustment.

[3irty1]

Oh its definitely them to some extent. But given the limitations, they need to take fewer shots. Maybe cut it in half.

And when you do take them, start at your 40 or better. And not on 3rd and short very often.

I disagree. Especially at this point in the season you want the reputation of being willing to go for the jugular whenever its under defended.

My favorite play call of the whole Mike McCarthy era was against the Lions in 2010. Rodgers is out, Matt Flynn is quarterback 4th quarter with a minute left. 4th and 1 from the Detroit 30 yard line. At the time it was thought this game was basically a must win in order to make the playoffs. All 11 defenders are an inch off the line of scrimmage. Flynn misses Greg Jennings deep left. Packers turn it over on downs and lose 3-7. Only thing you'd learn from scouting that entire game is that there is no situation where MM won't swing for the fences. Back up QB, playoffs on the line, only needs 1 yard, doesn't matter. Bend down to pick up the soap in front of MM and he's coming for you even if he's in a wheel chair. And frankly he's offended that you thought he would do otherwise. Peak McCarthy.

[RashanGary]

Agree 3hirty1. Those shots open other things up. Same way the run game does. Its nice for a defense to not know what you're gonna do. The only way to keep them guessing is to do wild shit and make them guess.

[texaspackerbacker]

Part of the problem on offense is Rodgers, I am now convinced.

He doesn't have receivers or the accuracy to keep going deep, but he keeps doing it. Its probably 30% him, 70% receivers on the failure to connect, but he keeps choosing to throw it.

Spend some time each game imagining that there is no Adams on the field.

Nobody connects on 100% or anywhere near that of deep passes. A lot of teams throw interceptions that way. Most of the underthrows I recall seemed to be throwing it where if our guy can't get it, nobody can. (the long pass where Adams had to slow down against the Panthers would be an exception to that, but the wind may have had something to do with that.)

I noticed that Adams came to the sideline more than usual last game - Rodgers didn't just need to imagine it.

[Smidgeon]

It seems a lot of these deep throws are underthrown. Not sure if Rodgers has lost arm strength or he's not stepping into is throws. I think it's the latter due to being under pressure.

I agree with this. Many of his deep throws are underthrown when a WR has a step.

[3irty1]

Agree 3hirty1. Those shots open other things up. Same way the run game does. Its nice for a defense to not know what you're gonna do. The only way to keep them guessing is to do wild shit and make them guess.

I don't ask for much, just an offense that sets up shop in the opposing D coordinator's head and invites them to play 4d chess against themselves. The holy spirit isn't satisfied to playcall like a man but as less than one--as a foolish raving madman--but he poses this way only in the eyes of God's enemies.

[RashanGary]

I don't ask for much, just an offense that sets up shop in the opposing D coordinator's head and invites them to play 4d chess against themselves. The holy spirit isn't satisfied to playcall like a man but as less than one--as a foolish raving madman--but he poses this way only in the eyes of God's enemies.

Well said. Know what’s kinda mind blowing..... you could write an equally valid and colorful paragraph about the importance of order, discipline and precision. And both would be true. How the fuck does that work?

[pbmax]

I disagree. Especially at this point in the season you want the reputation of being willing to go for the jugular whenever its under defended.

My favorite play call of the whole Mike McCarthy era was against the Lions in 2010. Rodgers is out, Matt Flynn is quarterback 4th quarter with a minute left. 4th and 1 from the Detroit 30 yard line. At the time it was thought this game was basically a must win in order to make the playoffs. All 11 defenders are an inch off the line of scrimmage. Flynn misses Greg Jennings deep left. Packers turn it over on downs and lose 3-7. Only thing you'd learn from scouting that entire game is that there is no situation where MM won't swing for the fences. Back up QB, playoffs on the line, only needs 1 yard, doesn't matter. Bend down to pick up the soap in front of MM and he's coming for you even if he's in a wheel chair. And frankly he's offended that you thought he would do otherwise. Peak McCarthy.

I would rather win the Lions game and have to game plan the opponents than send a message by losing.

I don't buy that it opens up the rest of the field given the way the passing game was going yesterday.

I am not saying take no shots. Doesn't work for anyone for long. But more, longer drives would be nice.

I'll have to keep track of when they take shot plays in the future.

[RashanGary]

Sometimes I see art work and my mind lights up like a retarded monkey tasting cashews for the first time.... there’s color here and shape there. Chaos here and order there. But it all balances out and my brain just explodes in an orgasm of joy mixed with confusion, mixed with understanding.

Football requires a balance of so many opposing but complimentary forces that when it all comes together, my mind does explode in that same way as seeing a piece of art or listening to an orchestra.

But then sometimes I just hope Greg Olsen would fall into the burning propane heaters. I give up. I think in some way it all comes back to pussy.

[QBME]

I dunno.
Seems like it's all smoke and mirrors.
Hope I'm wrong.