No Kaepernick workout thread?

[Guiness]

It's a slow week, gives us something to talk about

What a clown show that was. Lotta he said she said going on, some of it straight out contradictory - like was it a standard waiver or not? Florio figures NFL general counsel Jeff Pash was behind the whole thing. Florio's a lawyer too, they know their own kind.

[MadtownPacker]

It shouldn’t be a standard waiver. He shouldn’t even be getting this tryout. In instances I know of where someone sues their former employer they have to sign an agreement to never be hired again.

[Radagast]

I suspect some legal agreement was made and this performance served to fulfil that agreement. That said, I doubt that any team will make him any offers at all. He would, IMO, act as a media attraction and disrupt any teams operations. He is now more of a liability than an asset. Perhaps he will end up in Vince McMahon's new football league.

[pbmax]

It shouldn’t be a standard waiver. He shouldn’t even be getting this tryout. In instances I know of where someone sues their former employer they have to sign an agreement to never be hired again.

Funny that that doesn't seem to have happened.

[MadtownPacker]

Funny that that doesn't seem to have happened.

What was funny and what didn’t happen?

Looking at it from a business perspective which is what the NFL is. The woke feelings stuff should not factor into it at all. Don’t see krappy being woke when it comes to Nikes China dealing. Why does he deserve a spot in the NFL? It is a job so like you, me and just about anyone else, I apply and maybe get called for an interview (audition) on their terms at their choosen location. If I don’t get called then that means I can’t be of service to them. If I do get called I go through a selection process that may end up with me getting told thank you but we are going a different direction. Sometimes you apply and never hear back at all.

It’s just business and I have no right to demand anything.

[MadtownPacker]

Reports I read about his workout said he was overthrowing uncovered WRs. Pretty much what he was doing his last year or two.

Now that is funny and that seems to have happened.

[pbmax]

What was funny and what didn’t happen?

Looking at it from a business perspective which is what the NFL is. The woke feelings stuff should not factor into in. Why does he deserve a spot in the NFL? It is a job so like you, me and just about anyone else, I apply and maybe get called for an interview (audition) on their terms at their choosen location. If I don’t get called then that means I can’t be of service to them. If I do get called I go through a selection process that may end up with me ghetto told thank you but we are going a different direction. Someone’s you apply and never hear back at all.

It’s just business and I have no right to demand anything.

So by applying to work for a business, you forfeit all rights? Sounds pretty un-American to me.

If the NFL wants my eyeballs to stay connected, it better reconsider that sentiment. Nearly ruined baseball.

Laws apply to businesses as well. They are coordinating a boycott over a player. Probably more than one player, but I haven't looked at the list of those still protesting in some time.

NFL wants you to think its a meritocracy, it is clearly not. Half of the League is making money hand over fist by being terrible and losing all but on purpose to New England.

1. Its a business that routinely demands public funds and therefore deserves more scrutiny than it gets.

2. Its a business that wants to collect money from its customers. Since the direct amount from individual patrons has declined as a percentage of revenue, and broadcast, cable and internet channels plus local ad revenue now dominate, pressure through those channels is appropriate.

3. Hiring and firing are governed by laws. Local, State and Federal. The NFL routinely invokes the meritocracy for thumbing their nose at them and trying to avoid workman's comp claims. This is enabled by a partial anti-trust exemption from the Feds. If the NFL doesn't play by its own rules, those exceptions should be withdrawn.

Please read next post as PFT finally made itself useful again in deciphering what the NFL actually wanted out of the workout.

[pbmax]

What was funny and what didn’t happen?

Funny that the NFL paid between $1 and $10 million and did not insist on that clause.

I wonder why?

[pbmax]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/16/nfl-tried-to-put-colin-kaepernick-in-legal-checkmate/

The NFL tied to trap him in the name of risk management. It wanted to forestall future claims from its blackballing.

Let that one sink in. The league, under the guise of acting out of the goodness of its own heart and/or to assuage the guilt of 32 months of Kaepernick being wrongfully denied an opportunity, set up a workout for all teams (even though any team could work him out at any time) and then, as he showed up for it, asked him to sign a waiver that not only protected the league and the Falcons against a torn ACL or some other injury that could have happened during the workout but also exonerated the league of any and all responsibility for the violations of his rights that may have (have) occurred since he grievance was settled in February.

As a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT, when Kaepernick’s camp suggested a standard injury waiver that didn’t sweep broadly to absolve the NFL from its ongoing violation of his rights, league representatives said that the proposed release had been drafted by NFL general counsel Jeff Pash, and that Pash wanted his release to be signed.

[pbmax]

Reports I read about his workout said he was overthrowing uncovered WRs. Pretty much what he was doing his last year or two.

Now that is funny and that seems to have happened.

Link?

It would be more convincing if not for more than half the League's starters average 65% completion rate on throws less than 10 yards.

[George Cumby]

I'd rather have a dude who can run with arm strength than some noodle armed pocket passer as my back up.

[MadtownPacker]

I don’t see rights being forfeited by anyone. Pretty standard to sign a waiver which kid sports and even low level company rec softball leagues do. How would a huge cash cow like the NFL not protect itself, even more so by someone who has blasted them in public? Applying for a job has nothing to do with rights unless there is discrimination. I don’t recall political beliefs being a protected class.

I do feel the NFL should get zero tax payer dollars or exemptions from taxes so on that one we agree. They are not a non-profit. Doesn’t really related to this story other then it is a very valid criticism.

ALL companies try the dodge workmans comp. Also agree it is shady but kaper is not an employee anymore so that would not apply to him. An irrelevant fact in this case.

Link would be one of your favorites, Twitter but how am I gonna find it now?

Cmon PB, you are one of the most if not the most informed poster here. That completion % is in a game with the WR covered and moving! I watched some of the video, thanks for posting it. I see him throwing to guys standing still facing him. He still has the big arm, always has. He doesn’t look energetic and doesn’t appear to be set on making an great impression. All thing that would most likely cause any applicant to not get called back. Some bad footwork too.

You have provided a lot of copy paste but I ask, why does he deserve a job? In the NFL or even Taco Bell? Have you protested at work, dogged your boss public ally, and brought negative attention to your company. Or if you own your own business have you allowed a CURRENT employee to do all that? The SJW stuff just isn’t reason enough for me. Dude fucked up and likely it was due to listening to his woman, which has been the downfall of many men. Cuz if all this extra curricular BS hadn’t happen then he would be in the league still. Really has nothing to do with his talent, even if he does suck at reading defenses.

[MadtownPacker]

I'd rather have a dude who can run with arm strength than some noodle armed pocket passer as my back up.

How about one that turns away half the fans?

[pbmax]

I don’t see rights being forfeited by anyone. Pretty standard to sign a waiver which kid sports and even low level company rec softball leagues do. How would a huge cash cow like the NFL not protect itself, even more so by someone who has blasted them in public? Applying for a job has nothing to do with rights unless there is discrimination. I don’t recall political beliefs being a protected class.

There were specifically asking him to forfeit rights. There is a standard liability waiver that players sign every time they have a team workout. That is a forfeiture of rights that is standard and acceptable to virtually all players trying to get into the NFL.

The NFL tore that waiver up and wrote a new one that forfeited his rights (and future rights) to sue for their actions.

It was a trap engineering by Jeff Pash to protect the Legue for colluded for not hiring him. Its was a scam from start to finish.

The NFL does have a right to ask all players to abide by a standard of conduct. He was under no stricture at the time and has said he would not continue that form of protest.

[pbmax]

How about one that turns away half the fans?

It was a lot of heat and very little turned off fans. Lotta people looked at the numbers that season and they aligned with broadcast trends. He wasn't costing them half of anything.