No Kaepernick workout thread?

[pbmax]

Think about the people that the Packers are trying to get you to think will successfully run the Packers offense if Rodgers goes down.

Joe Callahan
Laser Arm Show Boyle
DeShone Kizer
Brett Hundley
Scott Tolzien
Graham Harrell
Seneca Wallace

I don't care how good your scheme is. They aren't scoring enough points. In the last decade, only Matt Flynn was passably successful as a scheme fit.

[yetisnowman]

It was a lot of heat and very little turned off fans. Lotta people looked at the numbers that season and they aligned with broadcast trends. He wasn't costing them half of anything.

Seriously. Turn away my ass. As if fans aren't going to show up or tune in if Kaep is the backup for their team. If anything the people that disagree with him will feel just as motivated to show up to boo or show their allegiance to the Flag.

[Guiness]

MTP doth protest too much, methinks. You trying to stir shit, or are you that conservative? I'll grant that most of what I've seen about this is from PFT, and Florio is a notorious player rights advocate, but other than statements directly from the NFL I haven't seen anything to contradict it.

Funny that the NFL paid between $1 and $10 million and did not insist on that clause.

I wonder why?

A couple of guesses
-they were afraid to ask for it, knowing it would imply culpability
-they did ask, and the price for the settlement went from $10M to $100M (closer to the actual damages), an apology and an elucidation of facts!

The last bit would have some kind of tarnished the shield, so I think they went for a cheap settlement and a promise that a team could hire him, and when no one came looking (despite clear need) it was obvious the charade had started again and the NFL was forced to do something.

I'm pretty sick of the "he can't play, look, he got bench for Blaine freaking Gabbart" narrative. His last year was on Chip Kelly's atrocious 2-14 team. Gabbert was the starter coming out of camp. Despite Kelly's offense resembling a Keystone Cops reunion, Kaepernick's line was 16-4 TD/INT with a passer rating of 90.7 and a 59.2% completion ratio. Gabbert by contrast was 5-6, 68.4 and 59.6%. He can play, that is hardly questionable.

[pbmax]

I think it’s fair to ask is he the same after two years out. But he should have been in a camp rather than one of the other pud knockers.

That list of Packer backups is just embarrassing.

[Joemailman]

I think it’s fair to ask is he the same after two years out. But he should have been in a camp rather than one of the other pud knockers.

That list of Packer backups is just embarrassing.

And to think Taysom Hill could have been on that list.

[pbmax]

And to think Taysom Hill could have been on that list.

Exactly. Got into a Twitter argument with Huber about Kap on Team that doesn’t run read option. He couldn’t imagine it being a good idea to change offense. But he refused to acknowledge the unmitigated disaster of same McCarthy offense and no talent QBs in Packer recent history.

He couldn’t (or wouldn’t) acknowledge that changing the scheme for talent might be the way to go.

The idea is t score points. Not be ideologically committee to an offensive philosophy.

[MadtownPacker]

Guinness - You are weak for making it about politics and even weaker for your thinly veiled doth protest too much bullshit. Say it straight up if you want to call a mfer a woman.

Man up and answer why does he deserves a job, any job? I have dealt with actual discrimination in my life several times. Are you a supposed minority? I’m not, I just happen to be a kinda brown American. Never want that to be any advantage for me because I can stand on my own.

So since no one is going to change their mind answer the question, why does he deserve anything besides you agreeing with his politics (as you sorta exposed)?

How about any of you? Why does he deserve anything?

[Guiness]

Guinness - You are weak for making it about politics and even weaker for your thinly veiled doth protest too much bullshit. Say it straight up if you want to call a mfer a woman.

Man up and answer why does he deserves a job, any job? I have dealt with actual discrimination in my life several times. Are you a supposed minority? I’m not, I just happen to be a kinda brown American. Never want that to be any advantage for me because I can stand on my own.

So since no one is going to change their mind answer the question, why does he deserve anything besides you agreeing with his politics (as you sorta exposed)?

How about any of you? Why does he deserve anything?

No womanly comment, just pondering the pbmax-like 5 answers in a thread from a guy who really doesn't show his face around here much.

Never said he deserves a job. I do think it's obvious there has been an out and out decision that he will not play in the league again however, and that the league does not want to admit that. Why? I don't know, so follow the money. And the money here leads me to think the NFL is a worried they have exposure here.

He tweaked the nose of some rich, powerful men. I feel like they wanted to teach him a lesson and it got bigger than they ever imagined. No one said he deserves a job, but something make the NFL decide to run this unprecedented little side show. Rather than ask why he deserves a job, ask why the NFL tried to organize this event.

My politics and ethnicity? Nothing interesting there. Middle aged white male. Canadian, so my politics tend to be more progressive and socialist than those in the US, but probably still to the right of Bernie Sanders.

[pbmax]

Guinness - You are weak for making it about politics and even weaker for your thinly veiled doth protest too much bullshit. Say it straight up if you want to call a mfer a woman.

Man up and answer why does he deserves a job, any job? I have dealt with actual discrimination in my life several times. Are you a supposed minority? I’m not, I just happen to be a kinda brown American. Never want that to be any advantage for me because I can stand on my own.

So since no one is going to change their mind answer the question, why does he deserve anything besides you agreeing with his politics (as you sorta exposed)?

How about any of you? Why does he deserve anything?

Because he is one of the best 32 QBs in the world. Or was.

[George Cumby]

Because he is one of the best 32 QBs in the world. Or was.

And certainly still in the top 64.

[MadtownPacker]

I have always read everything on this forum. Since 2006. It’s kinda mandatory if I’m suppose to be an admin, which I fucking hate. Snarky bitch ass comments like your being a part of why. My post count is 1000 less than yours so I guess you don’t show your face much either?

You made the thread and I’m the first to respond and that’s a problem? How about you shove whatever I wrote up your Mounted ass since it’s all shit to you anyways so I won’t bother adding more.

PB, George - I’m gonna let it go. But consider changing the thread topic to official kappy fanboys club.

[Guiness]

And certainly still in the top 64.

This. The list of has beens and never was's bouncing around the league (I'm looking at you Josh Johnson!) and his phone doesn't ring is crazy.

In every other case talent trumps all in this league, but he never even got a second chance. Wife beaters, illicit drug users, Vicodin addicts, all. The shield really, really, doesn't want him around.

[Rastak]

Yea, he's top 64. If I owned a business and one of my employees was really productive but alienated the shit out of my customers I boot his fucking ass as far as I could kick him. In football, if he was the best or even top 16 I'd consider it but other than that, adios asshole.

[Guiness]

Yea, he's top 64. If I owned a business and one of my employees was really productive but alienated the shit out of my customers I boot his fucking ass as far as I could kick him. In football, if he was the best or even top 16 I'd consider it but other than that, adios asshole.

Ok, that's an interesting statement - do you feel he alienated the shit out of NFL fans? To the point that they'd stop attending/watching?

It's the opposite of the way yetisnowman feels, and I wonder if you're right. Follow the money, the only explanation I can come up with for this is him in the league would hurt their bottom line.

Myself, I'm surprised that one of the 31 egotistical fiercely independent billionaires didn't decide he was going to win them some games, flip the rest of the league the finger and sign him.

[pbmax]

Yea, he's top 64. If I owned a business and one of my employees was really productive but alienated the shit out of my customers I boot his fucking ass as far as I could kick him. In football, if he was the best or even top 16 I'd consider it but other than that, adios asshole.

There is little to no evidence he alienated customers. The TV decline originally cited was consistent with overall broadcast TV ratings decline for football and was in fact less decline than the rest of TV suffered.

This isn’t about paying customers. This is about PR problems and no team wanting to defend political speech that isn’t as reflexively popular as veterans on the field holding the flag.

The NFL acknowledged this by giving players an option to not go out on the field early. Had they come to that sensible solution in Year 1, it isn’t an issue.