Packers 49ers discussion thread

[RashanGary]

They gonna practice Monday and/or Tuesday I wonder

[RashanGary]

I’ll be curious to hear this weeks interviews.... glean some info on what their self studies showed

[Joemailman]

I’ll be curious to hear this weeks interviews.... glean some info on what their self studies showed

I don't think they'll reveal too much about what their self scouting showed.

[pbmax]

Let's hope their self scout showed this:

In 180 snaps with him on the field and Williams on the sideline, the Packers have averaged 0.22 EPA per play, which would make them the best offense in football on a play-by-play basis. In 127 snaps with Williams on the field and Jones sitting out, though, the Packers have actually been a net negative on offense at -0.05 EPA per play, which is the equivalent of the 2019 Giants, who rank 25th in expected points added. If one back makes you the best offense in football and the other back makes you the Giants, I would go with the first guy.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28103551/making-sense-2019-nfc-playoff-race-eight-good-teams-six-spots

[Anti-Polar Bear]

neverminf

[Fritz]

Let's hope their self scout showed this:



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...eams-six-spots

That's crazy. My impression, apparently mistaken, was that Williams was playing much better this year. His yards per carry seemed to be much better this year than last.

[Joemailman]

That's crazy. My impression, apparently mistaken, was that Williams was playing much better this year. His yards per carry seemed to be much better this year than last.

I don't think those numbers suggest that Williams isn't playing well. His YPC is the same as Jones. What it probably suggests is that the Packers passing game is more effective with Jones in the game because opposing defenses must pay special attention to him, opening things up for others.

[pbmax]

I don't think those numbers suggest that Williams isn't playing well. His YPC is the same as Jones. What it probably suggests is that the Packers passing game is more effective with Jones in the game because opposing defenses must pay special attention to him, opening things up for others.

They break big plays with Jones, not with Williams. They need to tilt more in favor of Jones I think.

Just like taking downfield shots. You want to take them but not at the expense of effectiveness.

[Joemailman]

Packers flying out on Saturday this time. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...o-on-saturday/

[yetisnowman]

Let's hope their self scout showed this:



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...eams-six-spots

Yikes. So basically since week 3, this is a bottom 5 defense. Glad I wasn't exaggerating how bad they have been in my head.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers are full go today with all 53 at practice. For some reason,only allowed the media to watch stretch, even though they didn’t go to full team drills immediately afterward.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Matt LaFleur said team will leave on Saturday for the #49ers game unlike last time they went out west. LaFleur said he was told 2-hour time distance doesn't affect players as much going west and also the experience in LA played into it.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
LaFleur said he talks occassionally with #49ers coach Kyle Shanahan and won't be any this week. Said usually it's when he's FaceTiming with his brother (Mike, a 49ers assistant) and Shanahan might be in the office with him.

Bill Huber @BillHuberSI
LaFleur on his team being healthy: "I think it speaks to the support we have around this organization in terms of keeping our guys healthy."

[texaspackerbacker]

Regarding the Packers defense nosediving since early in the season, our personnel is basically the same, so the obvious answer to why is that other teams caught on to what we were doing and adjusted to it. That seemed to start in the Denver game. By now, Pettine should have figured out some ways to adjust to those adjustments, but as of the last game, it seemed like not much fixing had been done. What are you gonna do when the league figures out that you're weak against the run, and when you double up on big bodies to stop it, our DBs aren't good enough to stop the pass? I'd say go back to blitzing the hell out of opponents like we did early on. If they gash you with runs or break a big pass play sometimes, that's the price to pay, and our offense has to be good enough to outscore them. This slow death of trying to load up against the run and still having teams play ball control all the way down the field is annoying. It gives up as much scoring with less opportunity for our O to respond. In other words, never never never have Lowry and Lancaster on the field at the same time (except maybe right in the goal line), and have both of them anchoring the bench a large part of the time.

As for the team staying healthy, that to me says exactly one thing: LUCK. Hopefully, it will continue.

[pbmax]

The problem with being pass rush dependent on defense to stop the pass is that you have to be dominant on the LOS.

That is a costly way to do business. Much prefer to have some wins up front and a more solid backend, but not sure they are there yet.

King who was, at least, nursing an injury has been disappointing. Savage not quite back to pre-injury form.

Campbell will help. Fackrell has been a damn revelation in coverage. Like trying to hit a golf ball through a tree.

Would like one of those tryout run stuffers signed.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Packers flying out on Saturday this time. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...o-on-saturday/

Don’t want too many players hanging out in the Castro for too long, eh?

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, if you do like I said and get too pass rush dependent, they'll gash you with the run like Denver did. I'd rather be solid up front too, but Lowry and Lancaster together don't add up to a Grady Jackson or Howard Green type guy, so don't use them to solve the problem. If you blitz them hard and get them behind the sticks, yardage-wise, I think we will get more stops - even though we will give up some big plays. The guys you mentioned who have been decent at times in coverage will be tested either way, but the upside is better with blitzing than with Northwestern disease infecting our D Line. Maybe we could get lucky and find a run stopper among those tryout guys, but it seems unlikely.