More Banjo: Week 11 @ San Fran

[pittstang5]

I may be partially to blame for last nights loss. Didn’t watch at all and didn’t wear the lucky attire either. I Had to get up super early today, so went to bed early.

I had a feeling all day that this game was going to suck major ass, but was hopeful I’d wake up to a surprise.

Sorry everyone

[QBME]

Not sure on what thread to post this, whatever.
Went back and re-watched most of the game.
Maybe it's just me but does Matt LaFleur's facial language look like he is constantly about to begin crying?

[bobblehead]

Defense was put in bad situations in the first half but resisted and kept it close. Dr. Z was a monster.

Got a stop to open the 3rd period. Offense gave them nothing. Defense then yields big plays and game is over.

Bulaga hurt. Pass offense is a mess. Run offense doesn't work well with Williams and he doesn't make up for it in the pass game. No big plays. Jones needs to play more but someone is insisting he doesn't. Took him out of best drive of night to put Williams in while in SF territory.

Lets never play in California again.

Whatever Matt Nagy would do to get over playing badly in Cali, do the opposite.

Not to be obstinate, but Williams statistically way outplayed jones. 11 carries for 45 and 7 catches for 35 compared to jones 13 for 38 and no catches.

[bobblehead]

I thought Adams would make the offense really good when he returned, but it looks disjointed with him on the field.

Agreed. I think that Rodgers taking the dump offs to the RBs has declined with Adams back and we are facing worse down and distance as a result.

[bobblehead]

Criticism of his own game plan, or sending a message to Rodgers?

The latter I presume.

[bobblehead]

Methinks it's time for an offensive heavy draft or two after years of defensive focus. The receivers as a whole just aren't getting it done. This may be an unpopular opinion and misguided but to me it sorta seems like Adams is overrated. Shouldn't a top 5 WR be able to make some stuff happen?

Rookies WR and TE rarely make an impact for a couple years, so I would rather hit the piggy bank one more time, or trade a pick. Draft us a MLB that can cover!!

[MadtownPacker]

Rodgers needed to have plays that got rid of it quick because the Niners defense came out explosive and never let up the whole game. He also was missing the few times someone was actually open with a few skipping off the ground. Even my niner family member mentioned he didn’t look right.

Was it due to a drive up the 101 on Saturday night?? is

[red]

What is the identity of our offense? Anyone? Feels like the only passing play we can run consistently is a wr screen, and those only gain 4-7 yards at a time.

our offensive identity is the same as its been for years, its whatever long bomb play rodgers wants to run that down

when adams went out, we got to see a whole new kind of offense that many of us have been craving for years. it finally seemed like aaron had bout into the new coaches system. but as soon as adams came back, we went right back to the same old shit

last night should have been filled with screens and short quick slants, and more running. but instead we had a-rod looking deep on every play

and why the fuck did it take so long to get lewis into the game to help with the blocking? graham adds absolutely nothing to the offense, bring in a guy who can at least help do something

[red]

So I'm by no means a football expert, so maybe one of you who know more can answer.

It appears to me the Packers are playing a lot of zone, but they're just not very good at it. I thought Alexander and King were better man to man than zone corners, but zone can be used to shore up some weaknesses in return for making it easier to attack. In the first few games, I thought I saw a lot of man to man and little zone. The last few games it seems to be reversed, and it isn't working.

Can anyone with more football insight chime in on what coverages are being played, why they're the preferred coverages, and why they're failing?

i don't even think our players know what coverage we are running

we got plays where the whole team looks to be in man, and then king is thinking we're in zone

[Fosco33]

He only missed 2 snaps.

Well that’s good (and bad)

[pbmax]

So I'm by no means a football expert, so maybe one of you who know more can answer.

It appears to me the Packers are playing a lot of zone, but they're just not very good at it. I thought Alexander and King were better man to man than zone corners, but zone can be used to shore up some weaknesses in return for making it easier to attack. In the first few games, I thought I saw a lot of man to man and little zone. The last few games it seems to be reversed, and it isn't working.

Can anyone with more football insight chime in on what coverages are being played, why they're the preferred coverages, and why they're failing?

I might need to subscribe to the Athletic or JSO because the lack of coverage or links has left me scheme opinion deficient this year. So they started out man heavy but had morphed to some more zone without Savage. Not sure where it breaks down to currently.

I think King plays bump or press man well but in a zone he is only good when he can go forward. He is not good at anticipating routes or converting to coverage over the middle. Alex is more flexible. So you can scheme King into bad matchups which team's have done. Same with Martinez and TE routes.

Best way to stop a TE crossing route is to knock him on his ass near the LOS but Fackrell might be the only one big and fast enough to do it.

[pbmax]

Not to be obstinate, but Williams statistically way outplayed jones. 11 carries for 45 and 7 catches for 35 compared to jones 13 for 38 and no catches.

Yes. But Williams was not a game breaker here. Packers couldn't run Jones inside and they couldn't spring him open against a CB. They schemed Jones away and treated Williams like Derek Loville. They just didn't care if Williams got the ball.

[pbmax]

Defenses have figured out how to play Jones. They don't put a LB on him, they use either a CB or Safety.
He's not open anymore. Adams always has CB #1 on him and he is often doubled.
Nobody else is open. Our TEs can easily be covered by LBs. Our other WRs are covered or pushed out of position.
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This is going to be the problem to solve. Need one more option to torch offenses who commit their best CB or CB+S to Adams and then put the other CB on Jones.

Someone should be open and they weren't finding it last night.

Rodgers still expects Jones and Adams to get open, but he has to wait for it which is causing other problems.

[pbmax]

Bill Huber @BillHuberSI
LaFleur says they've been a bit "over-reliant" on Adams since his return. Again, he points the finger at himself.

[woodbuck27]

Methinks it's time for an offensive heavy draft or two after years of defensive focus. The receivers as a whole just aren't getting it done. This may be an unpopular opinion and misguided but to me it sorta seems like Adams is overrated. Shouldn't a top 5 WR be able to make some stuff happen?

Is Adams playing at 100 % ?