I'm with pb; we gotta find ways to utilize Aaron Jones better.
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They need to find a way to make teams pay for covering Jones with a CB. There also needs to be better coordination between LaFleur and whichever coach decides which RB is in the game. LaFleur said there were too many plays where he called a pass play to a RB but Jones wasn't in the game. Williams was targeted 8 times. Jones 0.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI'm with pb; we gotta find ways to utilize Aaron Jones better.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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They threw it to Williams because he was covered by a LB. Our WRs and TEs can’t get open(except Adams) and when Jones is in the game andOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostThey need to find a way to make teams pay for covering Jones with a CB. There also needs to be better coordination between LaFleur and whichever coach decides which RB is in the game. LaFleur said there were too many plays where he called a pass play to a RB but Jones wasn't in the game. Williams was targeted 8 times. Jones 0.
In a pass route, he is covered by a DB.
We schemed Jones open for a couple of games but defenses made adjustments. That pass is not there anymore. Even with Adams out for four games, our WRs were rarely targeted. We’ve got nothing outside of Adams at WR and TE if the opposing team has either a good pass rush or a good defensive backfield.
We’ll look better offensively against the Giants and Redskins because of their lack of defensive talent. Still doesn’t make our offense good.
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Excellently expressed.Originally posted by beveaux1 View PostThey threw it to Williams because he was covered by a LB. Our WRs and TEs can’t get open(except Adams) and when Jones is in the game and
In a pass route, he is covered by a DB.
We schemed Jones open for a couple of games but defenses made adjustments. That pass is not there anymore. Even with Adams out for four games, our WRs were rarely targeted. We’ve got nothing outside of Adams at WR and TE if the opposing team has either a good pass rush or a good defensive backfield.
We’ll look better offensively against the Giants and Redskins because of their lack of defensive talent. Still doesn’t make our offense good.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Wow !Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThey need to find a way to make teams pay for covering Jones with a CB. There also needs to be better coordination between LaFleur and whichever coach decides which RB is in the game. LaFleur said there were too many plays where he called a pass play to a RB but Jones wasn't in the game. Williams was targeted 8 times. Jones 0.
Learning curve?!** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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None of the brilliant suggestions for our offense are any good if our O Line can't block - and against a good defense, they pretty much can't. They're barely ok against an average or bad defense.
A helluva lot of people in here seem inclined to dismiss all the wins we had, most of them lately because of offensive excellence. I see no reason we can't continue to defeat lesser teams the same way. Let the whiners spew their annoying whine about how "we're unworthy" - the team ain't good enough to have so good a record. They're probably the same lame-assed people who predicted a shitty record for the season.
How many times have I said it for how many years? - Aaron Rodgers plus mediocrity equals a solidly winning record. It takes just a little bit more, though, to win every week, like against teams with strong defense at their own place.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I feel like this is coach speak. It can't be that this never comes up in game planning.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThey need to find a way to make teams pay for covering Jones with a CB. There also needs to be better coordination between LaFleur and whichever coach decides which RB is in the game. LaFleur said there were too many plays where he called a pass play to a RB but Jones wasn't in the game. Williams was targeted 8 times. Jones 0.
If it doesn't, they should dock his pay.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Too everyone lamenting that Jones is being covered by a CB, that simply means we should be able to run effectively. If teams are lining up that way, either a WR is covered by a S or they are playing dime and we should audible into a run play.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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WR or TE covered by a safety is my guess. Big slow guy in slot has its downside.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostToo everyone lamenting that Jones is being covered by a CB, that simply means we should be able to run effectively. If teams are lining up that way, either a WR is covered by a S or they are playing dime and we should audible into a run play.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Hell, the way Allison, MVS and the other dregs are playing, defenses could use AJ Hawk to cover the wide receivers not named Adams. And my mom could cover Jimmy Graham at this point.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostToo everyone lamenting that Jones is being covered by a CB, that simply means we should be able to run effectively. If teams are lining up that way, either a WR is covered by a S or they are playing dime and we should audible into a run play."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Too much sour grapes for me after a week....
Let's look at it a little more objectively: year 3 of Kyle Shanahan > year 1 of Matt LaFleur. Don't ignore the fact that Kyle Shanahan's record in 2017 was 6-10 and 4-12 in 2018. Them high draft picks obviously can have an impact. So, I'm guessing LaFleur will be at least 10-6 in his rookie season, already 1 year up on Kyle Shanahan, in the same system. Let's trust Gutekunst to make magic again in the draft and free agency, and let the players get used to this system.
I'm gonna look forward to 2020, when I think 37-8 will be routinely the beatdowns we lay on the Bears and Queens.......sigpic
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I think this is my thought also. We are out performing the talent on our team. Our roster is markedly better than last years but still we have a bunch of holes to fill. I think we are finally on the right path after a slow decline over the last 2 to 4 years in talent.Originally posted by Iron Mike View PostToo much sour grapes for me after a week....
Let's look at it a little more objectively: year 3 of Kyle Shanahan > year 1 of Matt LaFleur. Don't ignore the fact that Kyle Shanahan's record in 2017 was 6-10 and 4-12 in 2018. Them high draft picks obviously can have an impact. So, I'm guessing LaFleur will be at least 10-6 in his rookie season, already 1 year up on Kyle Shanahan, in the same system. Let's trust Gutekunst to make magic again in the draft and free agency, and let the players get used to this system.
I'm gonna look forward to 2020, when I think 37-8 will be routinely the beatdowns we lay on the Bears and Queens.......
We are a year ahead of where I thought we would be.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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I agree with this. I, too, thought we would be top level competitive next year. I thought we had an outsideOriginally posted by ThunderDan View PostI think this is my thought also. We are out performing the talent on our team. Our roster is markedly better than last years but still we have a bunch of holes to fill. I think we are finally on the right path after a slow decline over the last 2 to 4 years in talent.
We are a year ahead of where I thought we would be.
chance at the playoffs this year based on talent level. We've overperformed and that's led to unrealistic
expectations.
If you get to the playoffs, there's always a chance. I just think it would be a better chance next year.
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I keep seeing chatter about how teams adjusted to Aaron Jones being split out wide and covering him with a CB.
Okay, totally understand how that changes thing, but what I do not understand is why they need to split him out why to utilize him in the passing game? It would seem to me that running more routes from the backfield - maybe even an i formation or pro set, would be a huge advantage and cause a near endless amount of options for the D to have to defend.
I know it's just Madden, but I used to be an unbelievable Madden player and I never left the iformattion. I have a lot of Shanahan in me in that I passed to my backs a fuckload so nobody knew if I was running or passing and couldn't stop my attack. Why don't NFL teams do more shit like this? RBs are the new great weapons across the league.
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