Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[pbmax]

If he passes physical muster, I'd very much consider taking him.

Packers have front line pass rush and CBs. Can get other parts and developmental people in 2nd round and later.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Question for various rats, so many of whom have such disdain for our GOAT QB:

If the #12 ranked prospect in the draft happened to fall to us with the 32d pick - oh ok, 31st, 30th, 29, 28, whatever, should we grab him?

That #12 ranked prospect, of course, is Tua Tagovailoa.

I dunno 'bout Nutz, but I like my food spicy, my beer cold, my women hot, my corners dark and my QBs pale.

Give me that Brooks Bollinger clone, you know, the Wisconsin QB (Michael Cohen?), over T-Tago on any given Sunday!

Actually, as someone who supports NFL - and NBA - oddities, I am rooting Tago. And Luka Doncic.

[texaspackerbacker]

Seriously, APB, Coan? I like my QBs to be able to throw the ball farther than I can.

I'm truly uncertain on the Tua thing - that's why I asked the question. I really think there's a strong chance Rodgers plays well into his 40s. On the other hand, this is shaping up to be a very similar scenario to when we drafted him while Favre was still good.

Regarding the injury thing, the Packers have the luxury of waiting on him to be completely healed - as a lot of teams do not. I don't think the hip is gonna be a chronic concern. Isn't that about what Chad Clifton had, and he came back and was effective at a position where there is a lot more hits.

Nutz, I disagree a little bit about Packer needs. The primary one I see is a Kenny Clark level D Lineman. I don't think we need another ILB drafted all that high because we just don't use two on the field all that much. O Line, yes, but not too early in the draft. Wide Receiver yes, but probably second round, not first because there are so many speed burners in this draft. Unless we switch Lazard to TE, we also could use a top level TE fairly early in the draft.

[pbmax]

Seriously, APB, Coan?

[run pMc]

Seriously, APB, Coan? I like my QBs to be able to throw the ball farther than I can.

I'm truly uncertain on the Tua thing - that's why I asked the question. I really think there's a strong chance Rodgers plays well into his 40s. On the other hand, this is shaping up to be a very similar scenario to when we drafted him while Favre was still good.

Regarding the injury thing, the Packers have the luxury of waiting on him to be completely healed - as a lot of teams do not. I don't think the hip is gonna be a chronic concern. Isn't that about what Chad Clifton had, and he came back and was effective at a position where there is a lot more hits.

Nutz, I disagree a little bit about Packer needs. The primary one I see is a Kenny Clark level D Lineman. I don't think we need another ILB drafted all that high because we just don't use two on the field all that much. O Line, yes, but not too early in the draft. Wide Receiver yes, but probably second round, not first because there are so many speed burners in this draft. Unless we switch Lazard to TE, we also could use a top level TE fairly early in the draft.

I think Coan has a LONG way to go to be a game active QB, nevermind a NFL starter.
6'1" is short for an NFL QB, and some short QBs (Brees, Wilson) have succeeded, but it's not easy. OL go about 6'5" on average these days, and they have to be able to see/throw over that (and the DL). So, the size and injury concerns with Tua exist. He could pan out, and maybe worth a shot if he's there at end of R1. Honestly, I could see a Mariota/MLF reunion in GB, with Marcus as the backup until they find the true heir apparent. Who knows.

I agree GB needs another DL to help out Kenny Clark. He's the only dynamic player on the DL they have, and he can't play 80% of the snaps and be healthy/effective. The Capers DL of Pickett, Raji and Jenkins was pretty darn good, and they aren't close to that. Maybe Keke develops and takes M.Adams' snaps; I think M.Adams is what he is at this point: depth.

I think they definitely need someone who can cover TEs and defend the middle of the field. That is a weakness and has been for years. Ibraheim Campbell is nice but I don't think he's the best answer, if there's an ILB available who can run and cover you draft them. Also, Blake's contract is up and I'm ambivalent on paying him big money. He's decent, but hardly worth top 5 ILB money. If he walks you have Burks and Summers, which is to say not much.

WR is a big need, and I just don't see much out of Graham that makes him worth the money either. Lazard is not moving to TE -- he's their #2 WR at this point.

They also need a RT if they don't keep the Bulaga/Veldheer combo.

[Deputy Nutz]

Packers definitely need defensive tackle help, although they only need a rotation of three true defensive tackle/nose type players. They do a lot with their hybrid type players like the Smiths and hopefully Gary down the road, but neither of those three are true 3 tech or 0 tech players. They are edge rushers. Currently they have one true difference maker at the position, so this should be an area of address in the draft or free agency.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...ackle-rankings

[Cheesehead Craig]

The exact opposite thinking has led the Packers to have 28 years of the some of the best QB play in the history of the NFL.

Back then, 1st round QBs could sit for years. Rodgers was the last 1st round QB to not start in his rookie season. Teams have the best SB window when their QBs are on rookie deals and can play. That way you don't have to blow 10-15% of your cap on QB. College QBs are coming into the league better prepared to play right away as compared to the last time the Pack went looking for a QB.

Your statement is a bit misleading in that they had no real QB established when they traded for Favre and Rodgers fell into their laps when Favre was in his "should I retire" phase. It's not like they've drafted 3-4 QBs during that time.

[Bretsky]

I dunno 'bout Nutz, but I like my food spicy, my beer cold, my women hot, my corners dark and my QBs pale.

Give me that Brooks Bollinger clone, you know, the Wisconsin QB (Michael Cohen?), over T-Tago on any given Sunday!

Actually, as someone who supports NFL - and NBA - oddities, I am rooting Tago. And Luka Doncic.

Some times you post some over the top ridiculous shit

You get an award for this one.

[Deputy Nutz]

Back then, 1st round QBs could sit for years. Rodgers was the last 1st round QB to not start in his rookie season. Teams have the best SB window when their QBs are on rookie deals and can play. That way you don't have to blow 10-15% of your cap on QB. College QBs are coming into the league better prepared to play right away as compared to the last time the Pack went looking for a QB.

Your statement is a bit misleading in that they had no real QB established when they traded for Favre and Rodgers fell into their laps when Favre was in his "should I retire" phase. It's not like they've drafted 3-4 QBs during that time.

I was referring to the drafting of Rodgers, not the drafting of Favre. Rodgers deal was a bargain because he dropped to the 24th pick in 2005. Josh Jacobs was the 24th pick in the 2019 draft and makes about twice that of Rodgers in 2005. Compare the salary cap of 2005 of 85 million to the 2019 salary cap of 2019 of 185 million it doesn't cost a team any more in 2020 to sit a QB, in fact it probably cost less because of the salary structure of the draft slots for rookies. Also Rodgers was not drafted to replace Favre in 2005, Favre was 35 and not getting along with the new front office and was trying to find any angle to bargain for better players around him. He casually mentioned retirement and the Wisconsin media went bananas with it. Ted Thompson took the best player available to them in 2005.

Tua without injury is the #1 QB in this draft. He is a much better NFL prospect than Rodgers in 2005.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I was referring to the drafting of Rodgers, not the drafting of Favre. Rodgers deal was a bargain because he dropped to the 24th pick in 2005. Josh Jacobs was the 24th pick in the 2019 draft and makes about twice that of Rodgers in 2005. Compare the salary cap of 2005 of 85 million to the 2019 salary cap of 2019 of 185 million it doesn't cost a team any more in 2020 to sit a QB, in fact it probably cost less because of the salary structure of the draft slots for rookies. Also Rodgers was not drafted to replace Favre in 2005, Favre was 35 and not getting along with the new front office and was trying to find any angle to bargain for better players around him. He casually mentioned retirement and the Wisconsin media went bananas with it. Ted Thompson took the best player available to them in 2005.

Tua without injury is the #1 QB in this draft. He is a much better NFL prospect than Rodgers in 2005.

I concede, you sometimes know your QBs. I recall your fondness for Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Allen has gotten the Bills into the big dance. Jackson hasn't been moved to WR, so he's probably doing something right.

I, too, am rooting for T-Toga. I support NFL oddities, after all. But what about Mighty Joe Burrow?

Lots of folks believe Burrow is gonna rock the NFL and, thanks to his humble Hiesman speech, annihilate poverty, which is a good fight worth fighting.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Some times you post some over the top ridiculous shit

You get an award for this one.

I was jotting sarcasticm or, maybe, joking. Not gonna lie, I've only seen Coan play once this year, against Michigan. Looked like Bollinger. I hated Bollinger.

[Joemailman]

It's official. Jonathan Taylor will enter the draft.

Taylor is 30th on this big board. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...ional-rankings

Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams are entering the final years of their contracts. If Taylor were available when the Packers pick in he 1st round, should Gutey take him?

[Teamcheez1]

We don’t need to draft a WR after signing Reggie Begelton from the CFL to a futures contract.

[hoosier]

Badger running backs have a very checkered history in the NFL. And no thanks to drafting any RB in the first round.

[call_me_ishmael]

Tua without injury is the #1 QB in this draft. He is a much better NFL prospect than Rodgers in 2005.

You think he's a better prospect than Burrow? Burrow has looked great. I haven't seen enough Tua to have an opinion either way but a statement like this does make me raise my uninformed brow and listen more.