Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

I like Mims a lot. He shows a lot after the catch, reminds me of Adams, high points the football, catches the ball away from his body. He can go back shoulder on some passes. Also a decent blocker on the outside.
The guy I hope has a decent combine, but nothing flashy is Tyler Johnson from Minnesota.

Cephus has question marks, and I am not talking about what happened in his apartment. I am talking about what his combine numbers are going to tell us. I am not sure he can run under a 4.5 forty. He is pretty good at catching the ball in close quarters, but I don't see a lot of separation from him. This is just watching as a fan, not scouting the guy for the next level. Cephus might be a steal in later round especially if teams pass on him for questions outside of the football field

Yeah I like Mims and Tyler Johnson too. I think Mims is more explosive and will get drafted before Johnson. If he's an Adams clone I'm ok with that... two are better than one. I also think the off field stuff with Cephus will give teams pause and drop him lower than he'd otherwise go.
Is he overrated by some here because he's a Badger? Seems like he was pretty decent WR for WI but that offense revolves around it's running game.

Watched Duvernay, didn't expect to like him but he has very good speed and production. I question his quickness -- more like a sprinter than a human joystick -- and from what I saw he lined up mostly in the slot. Wouldn't take him high but I'm not sure GB has anybody like him either so I'm on the fence with him. Maybe he's James Washington.

I watched some of Kenneth Murray Jr. He can he run - he's clearly faster than Martinez. His game needs refinement but he has natural skills and I like him. He'd have better luck stopping Mostert in the hole or running outside than Blake. Haven't watched much of Patrick Queen yet but he seems like he'd be ok too.

[GB-Brandon]

Definitely room for 2 TE receiving threats in this offense. Duvernay doesn't have a complete game, but I think would be a good value in the 4th round. Could be dangerous in the slot. Hill is smooth as silk but doesn't look that athletic to me. Limited upside? I think Cephus has more talent.

I like Hill because he is ready to go in the slot day 1. He lacks massive explosion but so did Cobb. I feel he would be better and more effective then what we have now. Hill isn’t my first choice to help revamp the position but if there gonna try and do it later in the draft like OP then I like Hill and Cephus over guys mentioned..

[GB-Brandon]

I like Mims a lot. He shows a lot after the catch, reminds me of Adams, high points the football, catches the ball away from his body. He can go back shoulder on some passes. Also a decent blocker on the outside.
The guy I hope has a decent combine, but nothing flashy is Tyler Johnson from Minnesota.

Cephus has question marks, and I am not talking about what happened in his apartment. I am talking about what his combine numbers are going to tell us. I am not sure he can run under a 4.5 forty. He is pretty good at catching the ball in close quarters, but I don't see a lot of separation from him. This is just watching as a fan, not scouting the guy for the next level. Cephus might be a steal in later round especially if teams pass on him for questions outside of the football field

Cephus may not have long speed but we don’t need that as much right now so fine with 4.5’s. Cephus is “twitchy” on tape in short spaces and that’s exactly what we do need. He shows the ability to separate at the last second which is what you wanna see. He also wins 50/50 balls more often then not. if you liked James Jones then your gonna love Quintez Cephus!!!

[Deputy Nutz]

Isaiah Simmons is not an inside linebacker, he is the true definition of a hybrid player. Think of a cross between Derwin James and Leroy Butler. He is more safety than linebacker. He is not Derrick Brooks. Not that it matters as he wasn't in the Packers wheelhouse. Draft sites have him listed as a linebacker but he would be more of an outside linebacker that either apexes the #2 or lines up over the #2 receiver. He plays in space to the outside, or center field. I think he is athletic enough to play the middle, especially in nickel or dime, but the two films I watched I don't see a guy ready and willing to take on blockers.

[Deputy Nutz]

Alright watched two films on Quintez Cephus. He's good. This might be taken as a back handed compliment, but his best trait is his blocking downfield. NFL teams should watch his blocking and simply fall in love with this kid. He is a polished route runner, and he can catch the football, especially acrobatic contested catches. He reminds of Anquan Boldin a little bit. He might be a bit more explosive.

Watching some of these receivers the last couple of day like Reagor, and Shenault I can't get over how bad the QB play is in college football. The Badgers were actually in good hands with Jack Coan. Most of the time if I am not watching the Badgers I am watching Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, LSU Etc.... and those teams are usually led by quality college QBs. I was shocked to see how bad the Colorado and Texas Christian QBs were.

[RashanGary]

Troy Dye is an interesting linebacker prospect. Speed, length, instincts, coverage knack, work ethic, sheds blocks. Body needs to fill out, but nice late 2nd high upside ILB prospect

[Deputy Nutz]

Troy Dye is an interesting linebacker prospect. Speed, length, instincts, coverage knack, work ethic, sheds blocks. Body needs to fill out, but nice late 2nd high upside ILB prospect

His film made me throw up in my mouth.

[Fritz]

His film made me throw up in my mouth.

Which then created . . . a film in your mouth.

[run pMc]

Alright watched two films on Quintez Cephus. He's good. This might be taken as a back handed compliment, but his best trait is his blocking downfield. NFL teams should watch his blocking and simply fall in love with this kid. He is a polished route runner, and he can catch the football, especially acrobatic contested catches. He reminds of Anquan Boldin a little bit. He might be a bit more explosive.

Watching some of these receivers the last couple of day like Reagor, and Shenault I can't get over how bad the QB play is in college football. The Badgers were actually in good hands with Jack Coan. Most of the time if I am not watching the Badgers I am watching Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, LSU Etc.... and those teams are usually led by quality college QBs. I was shocked to see how bad the Colorado and Texas Christian QBs were.

College quarterbacking is not good. Probably explains the value of a good pro NFL QB.
Re: Cephus, I watched one clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzw3CTOCN8 and...he's ok. His routes improved over time, and he has good hands. Thicker body than I expected, but what surprised me was how few tackles he broke. Makes me think he won't give you any YAC. Agree the combine will be important for him -- he doesn't seem fast but he did run past some iffy corners on go routes. I'm inclined to think he's not very quick and has build-up speed. He's not bad but he feels like a Day 3 pick.

re: Dye, watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4u7RBUoUzk and he looks like a big safety...he has some speed to him but I wasn't impressed as a R2 pick. He'll need to be protected or he'll get engulfed every.single.time. Has trouble disengaging from blocks and I'm not sure how instinctive he is. Might have some coverage ability and looks like he can drop into zones, I wonder if he would be better as a 4-3 run-and-hit kind of backer. IIRC he played with a broken thumb which can affect how you play (ask Blake Martinez or Nick Perry about that) but I think he's there into R4 or 5 and could be a good ST player.

Maybe I just don't like anyone as more than a Day 3 pick today LOL.

[Bretsky]

Alright watched two films on Quintez Cephus. He's good. This might be taken as a back handed compliment, but his best trait is his blocking downfield. NFL teams should watch his blocking and simply fall in love with this kid. He is a polished route runner, and he can catch the football, especially acrobatic contested catches. He reminds of Anquan Boldin a little bit. He might be a bit more explosive.

Watching some of these receivers the last couple of day like Reagor, and Shenault I can't get over how bad the QB play is in college football. The Badgers were actually in good hands with Jack Coan. Most of the time if I am not watching the Badgers I am watching Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, LSU Etc.... and those teams are usually led by quality college QBs. I was shocked to see how bad the Colorado and Texas Christian QBs were.

Glad you've come around with Cephus; he's the real deal. Surprised at the compliment on Coan though. If he could throw a deep ball Cephus would have had 5 more TD's.

Coan needs to be the backup next year IMO

[RashanGary]

His film made me throw up in my mouth.

I can't imagine what your own regurgitated cum and bad beer must taste like, but this is about as close as I'll get I suppose.

[RashanGary]

In all seriousness though, the stretch run game and play pass has become big in the NFL the last couple years, so undersized linebackers like Warner and Kwon Alexander and shaq Thompson are finding more and more use as the need to get sideline to sideline and then recover quickly if it's play/pass evolves.

Speed, coverage and instincts seem to be 1a, 1b and 1c when it comes to inside backers or 4-3 backers now a days

[RashanGary]

Top 5 pick I'd want an instinctive brute who can run like Wagner or kuekly or urlacher. But in mid rounds, if I had to give something up, I'd give up size before speed and coverage

[pbmax]

Let's just bug the Bears draft offices and select THEIR linebackers.

[mraynrand]

I can't imagine what your own regurgitated cum and bad beer must taste like, but this is about as close as I'll get I suppose.

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