Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[Deputy Nutz]

6:29 mark of the video. You can't have this, he has to diagnose sooner, and fight through the blocks. Seems like he gave up and just went in the direction he was being blocked.

[Joemailman]

Baylor might have been a bad game for him. But I didn't watch the whole thing and I saw 4 plays where he missed opportunities for tackles either because he took a bad angle, or was out of control and couldn't react to change of direction. Didn't see him drop into coverage enough to draw a conclusion. Thought he showed good speed pursuing the QB.

3rd round prospect at best.

[mraynrand]

If you watch enough of it you will see his “Nation Leading 20 Tackles for loss”

He looks heavy and slow.

[RashanGary]

I've only watched Murray, Queen and Dye so far. The only one I get excited about is Queen. Looks sure of himself. His zone drops look smart and adapted to the offenses routes. He's not big but likes contact. He's fast. I'll bet he runs 4.55ish

No way I'd consider Murray with the 30th pick with so much need for sideline to sideline speed on the next level, but I like Queen a lot.

[RashanGary]

Queen is sorta like Bush last year but not a 4.4 guy the way Bush is.

[RashanGary]

If you could keep Martinez for reasonable AND draft Queen, our defense would stack up a lot better against a team like SF.

Z and P have to get more diligent and prideful with their edges too. Especially Z

[Bretsky]

Queen is sorta like Bush last year but not a 4.4 guy the way Bush is.

Here is most recent; has GB getting your guy

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2020/02/17/nfl-mock-draft-2020-cowboys-patriots-combine-first-round/4783268002/

[GB-Brandon]

Baylor might have been a bad game for him. But I didn't watch the whole thing and I saw 4 plays where he missed opportunities for tackles either because he took a bad angle, or was out of control and couldn't react to change of direction. Didn't see him drop into coverage enough to draw a conclusion. Thought he showed good speed pursuing the QB.

3rd round prospect at best.

Which is precisely why they will have to take him in 2nd. He is better then anyone we have signed currently at the position. He has a higher ceiling then Martinez. Walter Football seems to agree on both there mocks.

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020charlie_2.php

[RashanGary]

Here is most recent; has GB getting your guy


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...nd/4783268002/

I'm always open to gutes idea over mine, even if he's dead wrong half the time.

How the hell can these GMs not do any better than 33% hit rates. The college game must be so much more simple you just can't predict if a guy will be able to process the NFL complexity cuz physically it's easy to see who the athletes are and test for it

[RashanGary]

Here is most recent; has GB getting your guy


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...nd/4783268002/

Im curious to see Gary in year two as well. Physically the guy can set and edge and get knock back and has burst..... And he gets to come in rested. How the hell can he not make a bunch more plays than he did this year???

[GB-Brandon]

Interesting read on Brooks.

https://clutchpoints.com/texas-tech-lb-jordyn-brooks-could-be-a-perfect-first-round-fit-for-the-packers/

I like “twitchy” and “top 5 defense”

[GB-Brandon]

Here is TT versus OkieSt but its just the longest highlights package I could find. Says its 2019 game.

He certainly wasn’t afraid of the stat sheet.

1️⃣9️⃣ tackles
3️⃣ sacks
4️⃣ tackles for loss
1️⃣ forced fumble
1️⃣ QB hurry

[Bretsky]

Im curious to see Gary in year two as well. Physically the guy can set and edge and get knock back and has burst..... And he gets to come in rested. How the hell can he not make a bunch more plays than he did this year???

I keep coming back to the same thing and that is why I hated the pick right off the bat.

He was around the top rated HS prospect. He was supposed to be a superstar at Michigan. But he didn't produce. And the few Michigan fans I know who follow Wolverine football like I do my Badgers chuckled at the pick. Now we're seeing the same thing. That is why he didn't play much. Unlimited abilities not matching production. I think they let Fackrell walk and force him into the position and he either sinks or swims.

I hope our defensive staff can bring out his abilities.

[Bretsky]

Interesting read on Brooks.

https://clutchpoints.com/texas-tech-lb-jordyn-brooks-could-be-a-perfect-first-round-fit-for-the-packers/

I like “twitchy” and “top 5 defense”

TY

Great Read

[RashanGary]

I mock draftabled the probowl linebackers to see if there are athletic commonalities

Leonard ran an unofficial average 4.70 40 yard dash. He has freakly length. Didn't test otherwise.

Hightower is huge and fast. Didn't test otherwise.

Edmunds is big, freaky long and fast

Wagner has some average size, length and agility but is freaky fast and explosive

Kuekly has average size but near elite athleticism in every other way measurable

Kendricks smallish but elite speed and explosiveness


You have some smallish guys who are very fast in Kendricks, Kuekly and Wagner

You have a couple big fast guys in Hightower and Edmunds

And Leonard didn't really test but has elite length


Size/Speed definitely seems to be a trend. Either very, very fast and explosive like Kendricks, Kuechly and Wagner or Really big but pretty darn fast too.

Leonard is the outlier. Assuming that 4.7 stands, hes the only average speed guy whos not overly big. His only redeeming measured quality was those long arms to keep blockers off of him. But again, he didn't really test so we don't know what he is.



My conclusion is that in the NFL today, at LB, physically you want either elite speed athleticism at 230-240lb range or elite size/speed.


At a glance, Queen looks like the only guy who fits the probowl mold. Sort of in the Keukly/Wagner/Kendricks mold.