Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

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[GB-Brandon]

I believe when projecting these ILB’s we have to consider scheme and fit. We also have to consider a LB playing in the BIG 12 is gonna be playing against a lot of “spread offense” and similarities to “Air Raid”, so while there tape is not great at times they most likely won’t have the same responsibilities they had in college. It is my opinion that if we threw Blake Martinez into a situation against a spread offense similar to what Murray, Brooks were assigned to do that he would get ran off the field.

“Projection” is key here. Everyone has there fav but I would love to see Brooks in between the Smith bro’s wirh Kenny and another stud up front going against pro style offenses.

Sign me up!!

[GB-Brandon]

Agree with you Brandon - I'm not holding my breath on Summers either. I think they have to do something at ILB. Maybe Raekwon will be there and they draft 'em. I'm not expecting an all-offense draft by Gute.

Agree Simmons would've been a nice pick. Pretty sure TEN won't swap him straight up for Gary, so we'll have to hope Rashan puts it together. I'm thinking he will but not until Year 3 or 4 a la Arik Armstead.

the “Debacle” against SF killed our chance for an “all offense draft” and it’s quite sad.

[mraynrand]

the “Debacle” against SF killed our chance for an “all offense draft” and it’s quite sad.

Well, that and Martinez's FA, Burks being a bust, and Lancaster being JAG.

Packers are trying to rebuild on the fly, but they are a little short on $$ and draft picks, and a little too high on draft failures.

[run pMc]

Thanks for the P.Queen clips, pb. Watched the OK and Auburn ones, he's ok. Slippery and fast. Will need to get stronger. He'll need to be kept clean... he can slide off blocks but he's a bit small. He's young and his best football might be ahead of him, but he had so much talent around him I don't know that he can be THE MAN. He sure can run and has coverage ability, and has potential as a 3 down backer.

After a while, I actually wandered during the OK game to Jacob Phillips (#6) at times. Not as fast but was pretty disruptive.
Also, Jalen Hurts was very inaccurate that game...might not have been the best game to watch since it got out of hand and OK was playing catchup for the entire 2nd half.

All these guys have warts, it's a matter of what they can do well and putting them in roles to succeed.

GB has several needs and the board can fall many ways, so I don't expect to be surprised with the pick since I have no expectations. (I don't expect Gute to draft an OG, K, or P in R1, but you get the idea.)

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If you get a plugger or Martinez back, you might be able to shake a smaller LB loose if you move them according to formation strength.

[RashanGary]

the “Debacle” against SF killed our chance for an “all offense draft” and it’s quite sad.

I really want defense. Guys who play together for a few years on the back end, play well together and can make things more complex while still being sound. We have that now. King, 23, Savage, Amos and Sullivan should be a cohesive group. Keep Martinez and it's even better back there. Plus experience at dime with Greene and Campbell. I'm excited for that group back there.

Since I dont like any of the ILBs besides maybe Queen, I'm hoping for a DL with the first pick and a resign of Martinez.

[RashanGary]

Even better would be draft Queen and Keke/Gary make big jumps. AND P and Z become more dependable run defenders. There would be a learning curve with Queen, but at least we'd have the speed to chase down the outside run/PA offenses.

[RashanGary]

If you get a plugger or Martinez back, you might be able to shake a smaller LB loose if you move them according to formation strength.

There are some good DL coming out. I wouldn't complain if we got real deep up front and kept Martinez. Still gotta get Z and P to set their edges right too.

[Bretsky]

I really want defense. Guys who play together for a few years on the back end, play well together and can make things more complex while still being sound. We have that now. King, 23, Savage, Amos and Sullivan should be a cohesive group. Keep Martinez and it's even better back there. Plus experience at dime with Greene and Campbell. I'm excited for that group back there.

Since I dont like any of the ILBs besides maybe Queen, I'm hoping for a DL with the first pick and a resign of Martinez.

With AROD's play deteriorating there is some sense to just build a defense.

Unless you think AROD's falling numbers are due to our failure to surround him with weapons.

I agree with Brandon that it's sad we can't go all in on our offense. pick 12 last year and his lack of quality production instead of the stud you wanted is a huge factor in that.

[pbmax]

With AROD's play deteriorating there is some sense to just build a defense.

Unless you think AROD's falling numbers are due to our failure to surround him with weapons.

I agree with Brandon that it's sad we can't go all in on our offense. pick 12 last year and his lack of quality production instead of the stud you wanted is a huge factor in that.

Rodgers play hasn't fallen as much as his receivers collective talents have dropped. But I agree there is more leverage with improving the D, but mainly because the D stinks out loud in some games.

[Bretsky]

Rodgers play hasn't fallen as much as his receivers collective talents have dropped. But I agree there is more leverage with improving the D, but mainly because the D stinks out loud in some games.

maybe....and I have no stat evidence to support this....but to me his accuracy last year was not as good as it was in the past. I'm talking on throws where a WR is open and he needs to make. At times that does not seem to be automatic anymore. He's still one of the best in the game; maybe we'e been spoiled

[Joemailman]

There are some good DL coming out.

Their sexual orientation is none of our business

[pbmax]

maybe....and I have no stat evidence to support this....but to me his accuracy last year was not as good as it was in the past. I'm talking on throws where a WR is open and he needs to make. At times that does not seem to be automatic anymore. He's still one of the best in the game; maybe we'e been spoiled

I think its been several things.

1. Injuries, which seemed improved last year though I doubt he's 100%. Also, it look a couple of weeks to shake off the rust, see #4.

2. Deep throws, still a problem regardless of target.

3. Mid range, which bounced back and forth between trying to be too fine with Graham and hoisting them up for Lazard. The ideal is Adams, who almost always seems to get the ball where he needs it.

4. Short throws, which might have been the worst of the bunch early in the year but got much better. As evidence, he and Jamaal Williams seem to be sharing a brain now on screens.

5. Off balance throws/mechanics, which he used to do with aplomb but now seem to be problematic.

My universal field theory of Rodgers is that he became so fine tuned with receivers he knew like the back of his hand, that when presented with slightly less talented and predictable talent, he short circuited. You can see in his deep throws about 3 adjustments and he goes through during the throwing motion. Like a golfer with the yips on his driver. He can't just let it go, he wants to be perfect it with it. That plus some physical decline result in a lot of missed connections.

But I tend to side on Rodgers is still the best player on the team and if the talent at WR improves, so will he. He's not going to be 2011 Rodgers again, but with a D, he won't have to be.