Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[RashanGary]

OT Josh Jones, Houston

PFF 2nd rated OT in pass coverage in the country and only 2nd graded over 90 by pff outside of power conferebces

6'5" 310

Gave up only 4 pressures and half a sack all year

Had great senior bowl showing

I watched half a game against oklahoma. Steady as a rock

I'm a fan of this guy. I get more excited about this than the ILB prospects.

[mraynrand]

Their sexual orientation is none of our business

Xe make me laugh

[Joemailman]

OT Josh Jones, Houston

PFF 2nd rated OT in pass coverage in the country and only 2nd graded over 90 by pff outside of power conferebces

6'5" 310

Gave up only 4 pressures and half a sack all year

Had great senior bowl showing

I watched half a game against oklahoma. Steady as a rock

I'm a fan of this guy. I get more excited about this than the ILB prospects.

Reports on this guy are that he's very talented but needs some coaching. High upside guy who might not be ready to start as a rookie.

[hoosier]

I think I've had enough Josh Jones for one decade, thanks.

[pbmax]

I think I've had enough Josh Jones for one decade, thanks.

Planet theory of player acquisition. Only so many of these guys.

I need someone to root for after SPRIGGS™ is gone.

[Zool]

Planet theory of player acquisition. Only so many of these guys.

I need someone to root for after SPRIGGS™ is gone.

At least he isn't from one of the Carolinas?

[bobblehead]

Planet theory of player acquisition. Only so many of these guys.

I need someone to root for after SPRIGGS™ is gone.

Spriggs is technically under contract still. He was injured and wouldn't settle.

[run pMc]

I think I've had enough Josh Jones for one decade, thanks.

LOL I've heard some good things about him -- that's he athletic and talented, etc., but hasn't put it together. What scares me is that he's a four year starter and he's still considered raw, which means he's either got rotten coaches or he's unlikely to reach his potential and might just be another SPRIGGS™

[run pMc]

maybe....and I have no stat evidence to support this....but to me his accuracy last year was not as good as it was in the past. I'm talking on throws where a WR is open and he needs to make. At times that does not seem to be automatic anymore. He's still one of the best in the game; maybe we'e been spoiled

I actually thought he was more accurate this year than last -- I still have the image of him throwing a one hopper to MVS on a screen -- but he's become increasingly reluctant to throw receivers open or fit a throw into a tight window. His arm is still strong, but it's not what it was and his footwork is a mess (back foot throws) and he's iffy going thru his progressions (still doesn't even see open receivers; focuses on Adams).

Better skill player talent will definitely help, and another year in the MLF offense theoretically will. Getting the plays called in the huddle and getting lined up with 10 seconds on the clock would be nice to help diagnose the defense pre-snap too.

[RashanGary]

Reports on this guy are that he's very talented but needs some coaching. High upside guy who might not be ready to start as a rookie.

There is a difference between

high upside guys who get beat , that you know could be more consistent if you coached technique.

And

Gamers who consistently win already and can be even better with coaching


My understanding of Jones is he always wins. TT said that about sitton when he drafted him. He said, well we like him cuz he always blocks his guy. You can say the same of Jones from my understanding and PFFs grading. A gamer. Dominant. Even with less than perfect technique. A perfect reason he could slip to 30

[RashanGary]

The only thing better than a "gamer" is a gamer who hasn't even scratched the surface. Josh Jones is my guy so far this off-season.

[pbmax]

I actually thought he was more accurate this year than last -- I still have the image of him throwing a one hopper to MVS on a screen -- but he's become increasingly reluctant to throw receivers open or fit a throw into a tight window. His arm is still strong, but it's not what it was and his footwork is a mess (back foot throws) and he's iffy going thru his progressions (still doesn't even see open receivers; focuses on Adams).

Better skill player talent will definitely help, and another year in the MLF offense theoretically will. Getting the plays called in the huddle and getting lined up with 10 seconds on the clock would be nice to help diagnose the defense pre-snap too.

I think it did improve from 2018. But I think Bretsky means compared to his better years.

[run pMc]

I think it did improve from 2018. But I think Bretsky means compared to his better years.

Oh yeah, he's lost accuracy since 2014. I can remember him threading several throws earlier in his career that he wouldn't dare try now.

[Bretsky]

There is a difference between

high upside guys who get beat , that you know could be more consistent if you coached technique.

And

Gamers who consistently win already and can be even better with coaching


My understanding of Jones is he always wins. TT said that about sitton when he drafted him. He said, well we like him cuz he always blocks his guy. You can say the same of Jones from my understanding and PFFs grading. A gamer. Dominant. Even with less than perfect technique. A perfect reason he could slip to 30

IN other words, FOR FUTURE REFERENCES GOOTER

PASS on high upsaide guys who underachieve in college in early rounds
but
OK to go with high upside guys who do produce

[Deputy Nutz]

The only thing better than a "gamer" is a gamer who hasn't even scratched the surface. Josh Jones is my guy so far this off-season.

Jones might not be available at 30. His Senior bowl skyrocketed him into the first round. He is a super athletic tackle that has a high season. If he played at better program he would probably be a top 15 selection.