Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[mraynrand]

Cephus ran a 4.56 at his proday.

Thank god. I will be able to sleep through the night again.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd like to see the Packers get Cephus, but not with an early round pick. If he's still there as a late bargain, then yeah, and the WR group is so deep this year that just might happen. We have a need for speed with our 2nd round pick and a need for D Line help with our 1st round pick.

[Zool]

reduce your own fractions, you lazy sob.

You're not the boss of me.

[mraynrand]

You're not the boss of me.

I see a detention in your future.

[jklowan]

thinking this would be a decent draft...

R1P30 - WR DENZEL MIMS
R2P30 - OT ISAIAH WILSON
R3P30 - DL DAVON HAMILTON
R4P30 - LB AKEEM DAVIS-GAITHER
R5P29- RB AJ DILLON
R6P13 - WR JAMIE PROCHE
R6P29 - OT HAKEEM ADENIJI
R6P30 - TE STEPHEN SULLIVAN
R7P22 - G JON RUNYAN
R7P28- DL MCTELVIN AGIM

[smuggler]

So, we have a RT signed and now have an ILB with actual professional skills. So, how do our draft needs shake out? What is the sequence?

WR: We need an injection of talent at wide receiver. This is definitely the draft class to make that happen.

EDGE: We need depth at edge rusher. It's not terrible, with Gary, but it's probably the 2nd most important position in the game. Need a 4th horseman.

OLINE: We need depth on the offensive line, specifically a swing tackle. Alex Light and Jason Spriggs are not going to cut it.

DLINE: Clark is awesome. Lowry is solid. The rest of the squad is a little lackluster. We could use a talented player to help against the run (and maybe save our edge rushing rotation from having to generate as much pressure inside, keep them fresh).

ILB: We need another capable body at ILB. Burks is not the answer, and I'm sure the team wants to actually be able to run nickel. Especially after the SF playoff game.

QB: It's about time we added a protege to groom for when Rodgers hangs 'em up.

RB: Not a need, but both our backs will be free agents after 2020. Would be nice to have a guy ready to step in if needed. Dexter might not be that guy.

[pbmax]

I see a detention in your future.

Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?

[run pMc]

So, we have a RT signed and now have an ILB with actual professional skills. So, how do our draft needs shake out? What is the sequence?

WR: We need an injection of talent at wide receiver. This is definitely the draft class to make that happen.

EDGE: We need depth at edge rusher. It's not terrible, with Gary, but it's probably the 2nd most important position in the game. Need a 4th horseman.

OLINE: We need depth on the offensive line, specifically a swing tackle. Alex Light and Jason Spriggs are not going to cut it.

DLINE: Clark is awesome. Lowry is solid. The rest of the squad is a little lackluster. We could use a talented player to help against the run (and maybe save our edge rushing rotation from having to generate as much pressure inside, keep them fresh).

ILB: We need another capable body at ILB. Burks is not the answer, and I'm sure the team wants to actually be able to run nickel. Especially after the SF playoff game.

QB: It's about time we added a protege to groom for when Rodgers hangs 'em up.

RB: Not a need, but both our backs will be free agents after 2020. Would be nice to have a guy ready to step in if needed. Dexter might not be that guy.

You forgot TE: they don't have a lot here, and
CB: what to do about Tramon/3rd (or slot) corner? Assume 2 of Sullivan, Hollman and Jackson step up? Expecting King to stay healthy is a lot.

[texaspackerbacker]

So, we have a RT signed and now have an ILB with actual professional skills. So, how do our draft needs shake out? What is the sequence?

WR: We need an injection of talent at wide receiver. This is definitely the draft class to make that happen.

EDGE: We need depth at edge rusher. It's not terrible, with Gary, but it's probably the 2nd most important position in the game. Need a 4th horseman.

OLINE: We need depth on the offensive line, specifically a swing tackle. Alex Light and Jason Spriggs are not going to cut it.

DLINE: Clark is awesome. Lowry is solid. The rest of the squad is a little lackluster. We could use a talented player to help against the run (and maybe save our edge rushing rotation from having to generate as much pressure inside, keep them fresh).

ILB: We need another capable body at ILB. Burks is not the answer, and I'm sure the team wants to actually be able to run nickel. Especially after the SF playoff game.

QB: It's about time we added a protege to groom for when Rodgers hangs 'em up.

RB: Not a need, but both our backs will be free agents after 2020. Would be nice to have a guy ready to step in if needed. Dexter might not be that guy.

I agree with some of that but not all.

WR: We need a guy with elite speed, and we could use a decent 4th or 5th round guy to be our 4th or 5th WR.

Edge Rusher: We probably could use another rotation guy/the 4th OLB. As I recall, Ramsey looked pretty good last preseason.

O Line: It's not as bad as you picture it. Back up O Linemen are pretty much interchangeable, and we have Lucas Patrick, Lane Taylor (for now), Veldheer who did all right in his brief time last year, this huge guy Nijman who some think has a chance to be good, plus the two you mentioned.

D Line: Yes, Clark is awesome, but Lowry solid? I'd say no way to that. I'd give M. Adams more chance than him, and he's showed very little. D Line is still the top choice IMO for our first round pick.

ILB: I really thought they'd keep Martinez, but they must have some confidence in Kirksey. Aside from that, first of all, the Packers don't often use two ILBs on the field at a time. Secondly, Summers and Bolton both weren't that bad last preseason, and Burks athletically has all the tools. I wouldn't give up on him. They ought to be able to coach him up, and in the meantime, he's damn good on special teams. I wouldn't use a first or second day draft pick on ILB.

QB: Boyle is plenty good for what we need a back up to be; Manny Wilkins at least has possibilities as a 3rd stringer. No future Rodgers replacement is needed for at least a couple more years.

RB: pretty much what you said

You didn't mention TE. I have high hopes Tonyan will be better, and a lot of people have confidence in Sternberger. That plus bringing Lewis back plus the possibility of this guy Looney amounting to something makes this adequate, but a mid round bargain draft pick wouldn't be a bad idea.

I still wouldn't rule out a high round pick for another Corner, as I wasn't at all confident in King's ability to cover, and even Alexander took a step backward last season.

[smuggler]

Veldheer is a free agent.

The Packers frequently played heavy dime instead of nickel last year (one ILB, three S) and I don't think they wanted to do it. I think they were forced into it by personnel.

You're probably right WRT the TE position. We'll see if they resign Marc Lewis.

[run pMc]

OLINE: We need depth on the offensive line, specifically a swing tackle. Alex Light and Jason Spriggs are not going to cut it.

O Line: It's not as bad as you picture it.

I think OL is something they will address no later than 4th round. Wagner is not a long term solution, and he's not as good as Bulaga. It's considered a good class for OT, and with Wagner they can nab one without having to prematurely start them and get Rodgers killed. Bahktiari is a free agent after this season too.

Light, Njiman, et al. might make a jump but I'm not counting on it. I think it happens more often with UFDAs at C/G vs. OT.

[RashanGary]

I could easily still see an OT with the first pick. Bahk is a FA and getting older. If you end up with a stud LT, that saves a shit load of money and insures we can keep players at other important spots. Like Aaron Jones, the first really reliable and play making back of the Rodgers era. That's a piece we don't want to do without.

And 6M dollar plug and play RTs aren't that hard to find

[wist43]

1 (30) Mims, Blacklock, Aiyuk

2 (60) Peoples-Jones, Reagor, Kmet

3 (90) Bradlee Anae

4) Anae, Gandy-Golden, Logan Wilson

These are all guys I've looked at and liked... not sure where they'll be slotted yet, and there has been some wild deviation in the mocks.

Will reference this post as we go along, add to it, and moves guys around.

1st round though I'm hoping for Mims or Blacklock regardless of who else is there.

[texaspackerbacker]

Blacklock is only 21 and seems like a good chance to be another Kenny Clark. I also agree with RG's logic in getting a stud LT a year before we let Bakhtiari walk. My only negative thought about that is that the Packers as well as other teams have had a lot more misses than hits when drafting first round O Linemen.

I like Mims, and clearly we need a speedy WR like him, but I think somebody really good will fall to us in the second or even third round - Reagor or Duvernay being my prime choices.

I still wouldn't rule out taking a Corner fairly early also - 3rd, maybe even 2nd round, as I just don't think Kevin King is an adequate starting Corner.

[Deputy Nutz]

I like the Texas Christian guys in Reagor and Blacklock. Reagor or Mims could be first round guys along with Blacklock, but I don't think any of them will be there at 60.

The Packers have some multiple late round draft picks that they could use to move up in rounds. I think if the Packers still feel strongly about inside linebacker even though they never do, they could trade up 4 or 5 picks in the first round to secure Queen. I wouldn't trade up to get Murray.

Regardless they still need to draft dudes to solidify the middle of the defense which has been really weak for several years now, and they need some route runners at wide receiver and tight end.

I said my peace about Peoples-Jones, Gute should love him because he is one of the top athletes in his position group but has zero production.