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  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Watching film of Wisconsin vs. Ohio State. I was focusing on Cephus. He looks better than I expected, but Jonathan Taylor is a stud. He's my #1 RB. He reminds me of Nick Chubb.
    Cephus is the real deal

    OSU's top dog at CB called him the best WR he has faced

    If he had a QB who could throw the deep ball he'd have had blow up stats last year
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Cephus is the real deal

      OSU's top dog at CB called him the best WR he has faced

      If he had a QB who could throw the deep ball he'd have had blow up stats last year
      100%
      The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
      Vince Lombardi

      "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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      • I would love to trade back a bit and get an OT then figure out how to move up and get Taylor. They need those positions. Can’t pay Jones big bucks IMo.

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        • 1 (30) Mims (WR), Blacklock (DL), Reagor (WR), Elliot (DL), AJ Terrell (CB)

          2 (62) Peoples-Jones (WR), Bryan Edwards (WR), Netane Muti (OL), Darrell Taylor (Edge), Ben Bartch (OT), Aiyuk (WR), Robert Hunt (OT, LALAF)

          3 (94) Bradlee Anae (Edge), Willie Gay Jr. (LB), Logan Wilson (LB), John Hightower (WR), Ben Bartch (Think he might go higher), Netane Muti, Darrell Taylor, Kmet (TE), Troy Pride Jr. (CB)

          4) Anae, Gandy-Golden (WR), Logan Wilson, Quez Watkins(WR), James Lynch (DL), Amik Robertson (CB)

          These are all guys I've looked at and liked... not sure where they'll be slotted yet, and there has been some wild deviation in the mocks.

          Will reference this post as we go along, add to it, and move guys around.

          1st round though I'm hoping for Mims or Blacklock regardless of who else is there.

          Really like Hunt, don't think he'll be there in the 3rd.
          wist

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          • Interesting views expressed by some of the scouts in this article. Makes the trades for Hopkins, Diggs, and Cooks easier to rationalize. This draft is deep at WR, but you can also just trade the (all the more) unknown of a pick for a proven player.

            Also, of interest to you Badgers guys:

            Zack Baun was not among the 58 players invited to the league's virtual draft day do-dah. I've seen him mocked as early as 20. He is kind of a tweener, though.
            Last edited by smuggler; 04-09-2020, 11:17 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              Cephus is the real deal

              OSU's top dog at CB called him the best WR he has faced

              If he had a QB who could throw the deep ball he'd have had blow up stats last year
              My post was more about Taylor.

              Cephus was solid. I could see him going in round 4-5. I have him similar to Tyler Johnson of Minnesota. Another kid with great ball skills that may be a bit underrated is Antonio Gandy-Golden of Liberty. I see a lot of similarities between him and Allen Lazard.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • I'll be honest: I loved watching Justin Herbert on film. You don't see guys that are 6'6", run in the 4.6s, and that have a golden arm. His film against Stanford in 2018 was beautiful. I think there's a chance a GM could fall in love with him and take him in the top 5 (and maybe over Tua). I was looking back at my draft spreadsheets (2014-2016, 2018, 2020 classes), and the only guys I had that were 6'5"+ and ran in the 4.7s or better were Carson Wentz and Josh Allen (who made great strides last year). Well, besides Logan Thomas--who couldn't throw a lick. This guy may have a better arm than Wentz and Allen. Wentz might be more accurate, but I'd give Herbert the nod in arm strength. Allen has Elway and Favre like velocity, but he lacks accuracy. I have Herbert solidly ahead of Jordan Love.

                Jacob Eason gives me Mason Rudolph vibes.

                Taylor is my #1 RB over Swift.

                Lamb is my #1 WR. One WR that I didn't know that I'd love is Brandon Aiyuk. He has injury concerns though. Jalen Reagor is a guy that I think is overrated. Van Jefferson is a terrific route runner. Rodgers would probably like him. James Proche has terrific hands. Donovan Peoples-Jones is all athlete and no football player. I also wasn't impressed with K.J. Hamler.

                I'm still working my way through the WRs. It's going to be a grind to get through all positions.
                Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 04-10-2020, 12:58 AM.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                  I'll be honest: I loved watching Justin Herbert on film. You don't see guys that are 6'6", run in the 4.6s, and that have a golden arm. His film against Stanford in 2018 was beautiful. I think there's a chance a GM could fall in love with him and take him in the top 5 (and maybe over Tua). I was looking back at my draft spreadsheets (2014-2016, 2018, 2020 classes), and the only guys I had that were 6'5"+ and ran in the 4.7s or better were Carson Wentz and Josh Allen (who made great strides last year). Well, besides Logan Thomas--who couldn't throw a lick. This guy may have a better arm than Wentz and Allen. Wentz might be more accurate, but I'd give Herbert the nod in arm strength. Allen has Elway and Favre like velocity, but he lacks accuracy.

                  Taylor is my #1 RB over Swift.

                  Lamb is my #1 WR. One WR that I didn't know that I'd love is Brandon Aiyuk. He has injury concerns though. Jalen Reagor is a guy that I think is overrated. Van Jefferson is a terrific route runner. Rodgers would probably like him. James Proche has terrific hands. Donovan Peoples-Jones is all athlete and no football player. I also wasn't impressed with K.J. Hamler.

                  I'm still working my way through the WRs. It's going to be a grind to get through all positions.


                  Agree on almost everything; I'd be really excited if GB drafted Jonathan Taylor. I know it wouldn't be a popular move; and the Packer report has noted both GB and Aaron Jones have mutual interest in working out an extension know. So maybe he isn't looking to break the bank. No way JT gets to our round 2 pick.

                  I'm in the middle on Jaegor.

                  I love CeDee Lamb; to me he looks like Sterling Sharpe. It really sucks that we got stuck with pick 12 last year with that talent pool as opposed to this year. Think of the WR's we could pick up at 12 this year. Scary.

                  I think Jefferson and Mims are solid picks at 30. Aiyuk scares me. Very raw. Not a great route runner but he's a great athlete in open space. I don't understand why people want People-Jones. Just doesn't produce.

                  And Tyler Badass is going to be a very good OG for somebody.

                  Speaking of Badgers, anybody remember TJ Edwards last year ? So many didn't like his measurables. He went undrafted. He broke into the starting lineup the last 4 games for Phily last year and was rated their best ILB. He would have been ours too. Producer.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    My post was more about Taylor.

                    Cephus was solid. I could see him going in round 4-5. I have him similar to Tyler Johnson of Minnesota. Another kid with great ball skills that may be a bit underrated is Antonio Gandy-Golden of Liberty. I see a lot of similarities between him and Allen Lazard.


                    Agree, and I think Cephus goes about there too. He's a nasty blocker and enjoy hitting people too. Isn't Gandy Golden a burner as well ? Might be wrong but I thought he has a much faster gear than da Lizard
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      Agree, and I think Cephus goes about there too. He's a nasty blocker and enjoy hitting people too. Isn't Gandy Golden a burner as well ? Might be wrong but I thought he has a much faster gear than da Lizard
                      They are relatively similar in most traits. I think Lazard has him slightly beat in most traits actually--except broad jump and bench press. Neither are going to wow you with their route running. Most big guys don't, but they do have some ability to create separation. What they are: physical in their routes, good ball skills, solid hands, nasty demeanor when the ball is in their hands, and solid blockers.

                      Still not sure why Lazard wasn't drafted. Productive 6'5", 225 lb receivers who run 4.55 40s are usually drafted. The consensus that year was he'd be drafted in the 4th or 5th round.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • I am pro BPA. But not running back. Not this year in the second unless you trade out of the first and get another high pick.

                        Cap goes up next year, Jones can be signed.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • I think taking Taylor or another top back is only really possible in the top of the second round. You could trade back from the first pick, net another 3rd or 4th rounder, and then take a back.

                          Reminds me of when we did this with Lacy, although that was in the second round.

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                          • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                            I think taking Taylor or another top back is only really possible in the top of the second round. You could trade back from the first pick, net another 3rd or 4th rounder, and then take a back.

                            Reminds me of when we did this with Lacy, although that was in the second round.
                            There were a lot of 2nd round backs that year. I think Ted traded down twice and still had two left to choose from.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • They traded back in the 2nd round only once in that draft, but selected Lacy after the first trade back with the 49ers. Then they traded back with the 49ers again in the next round.

                              There were no backs selected between their original spot (49ers took Vance McDonald) and the position they selected Lacy.

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                              • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                                They traded back in the 2nd round only once in that draft, but selected Lacy after the first trade back with the 49ers. Then they traded back with the 49ers again in the next round.

                                There were no backs selected between their original spot (49ers took Vance McDonald) and the position they selected Lacy.
                                You sure? I could have sworn they traded back twice.

                                EDIT: I guess I just remember running backs coming off the board in the second round.

                                Ball went to Denver at No. 58. Giovani Bernard of North Carolina and Le'Veon Bell of Michigan State went earlier in the second round. This was the first time since 1963 that a running back wasn't selected in the first round of the draft. But Lacy now has his opportunity to prove all those teams that passed on him wrong, much like quarterback Aaron Rodgers after he tumbled down the board to the Packers in 2005.
                                Last edited by pbmax; 04-10-2020, 11:11 AM.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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