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  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    I prefer Hunt... think his ceiling is higher.

    I think Niang is going to struggle out of the gate. He's got some bad habits he has to correct. He tends to get tall after contact... power rushers on the NFL level will eat him alive if he doesn't correct that. He also has a habit of stopping his feet at the corner... not all the time, but when he does it he gets grabby. He can get away with that against college players, but NFL players are another matter.
    I’d agree either one will need some time to develop. For me, I would rather take the one with the better feet and that appears to be Niang. Yes, he gets lazy with it sometimes but the ability is there to do it as he has also shown. He also did it against an overall higher level of competition. You would have to think this is something that can be coached out.

    The Packers went out and got a stop gap RT in Wagner so this tells me(along with keeping L. Taylor) that they want to use there top picks elsewhere. At the end of the day I would be fine with Niang or Hunt and it literally might come down to what one is still on the board when the Packers select.

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    • Lets' have a fun debate ? ORDER OF PREFERENCE BETWEEEN

      Jefferson
      Jaegor
      Mims
      Shennault
      Higgins


      AND WHY ?

      To me I'd throw those all in a lump of about the same. Aiyuk I think is too raw to be in with the above, but that's just me
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • Jefferson
        Mims
        Reagor
        Shennault
        Aiyuk
        Higgins

        See my Tiers

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        • I’ve thoroughly explained why Reagor is the guy. We tried to go “Big Slot” last year and it just wasn’t effective. The offense stalled because we didn’t have enough speed in the middle unless we moved Devante inside and even he isn’t a true slot. Slow Snail Jimmie Graham didn’t help but we still need someone explosive to command the middle of the field and stress the defense. Look no further then the Chiefs and what Tyreek Hill does for that offense. He commands so much attention that he either beats coverage or more coverage is deployed to him which creates mismatches at other match ups. Rodgers would feast with this environment.

          Now I’m not anointing Reagor as the next T. Hill just yet but he clearly has the best chance we would have on the roster. All those other receiver prospects listed are nice talents but they don’t do for this offense what is clearly missing.

          I would actually expand the list to Laviska Shenault and KJ Hamler because those guys might be the next options after Reagor for what this team needs. Shenault has injury concerns written all of him and Hamler is kinda small. I suppose Duvernay is an option later in the draft but to me he is a one trick pony. I have Reagor higher then all these guys.

          I believe in Cephus also and we can get him on day 3.. I think adding him later along with signing Funches with continued development of Lazzard has us looking good on the outside.

          IMO adding Regor to all this will have us doing more “Lambeau Leaps” if you know what i mean.

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          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            Lets' have a fun debate ? ORDER OF PREFERENCE BETWEEEN

            Jefferson
            Jaegor
            Mims
            Shennault
            Higgins


            AND WHY ?

            To me I'd throw those all in a lump of about the same. Aiyuk I think is too raw to be in with the above, but that's just me
            Mims - think the sky's the limit for this kid. Fast, quick. Didn't have great QB play, and that held him back some. Love his route running, high points the ball. No concern about playing outside.

            Reagor - like his quickness in and out of his cuts. Kick returner. Explosive player.

            Jefferson - great college production, mostly out of the slot. Can he play outside?? Ran well at the combine, but not sure he can win outside, which is why I have him below Mims and Reagor.

            Higgins - little bit high cut. Not great speed. High points ball well, good route runner.

            Aiyuk - he's raw, very limited route tree. Like his upside though. There are other players I like at pick 62 that I'd rather go with though. If he drops to the 3rd, then yes.

            Shenault - not sure what to make of him. Not overly impressed with his tape. They used him him in a variety of ways. Looks more like a RB.
            wist

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            • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              I’ve thoroughly explained why Reagor is the guy. We tried to go “Big Slot” last year and it just wasn’t effective. The offense stalled because we didn’t have enough speed in the middle unless we moved Devante inside and even he isn’t a true slot. Slow Snail Jimmie Graham didn’t help but we still need someone explosive to command the middle of the field and stress the defense. Look no further then the Chiefs and what Tyreek Hill does for that offense. He commands so much attention that he either beats coverage or more coverage is deployed to him which creates mismatches at other match ups. Rodgers would feast with this environment.

              Now I’m not anointing Reagor as the next T. Hill just yet but he clearly has the best chance we would have on the roster. All those other receiver prospects listed are nice talents but they don’t do for this offense what is clearly missing.

              I would actually expand the list to Laviska Shenault and KJ Hamler because those guys might be the next options after Reagor for what this team needs. Shenault has injury concerns written all of him and Hamler is kinda small. I suppose Duvernay is an option later in the draft but to me he is a one trick pony. I have Reagor higher then all these guys.

              I believe in Cephus also and we can get him on day 3.. I think adding him later along with signing Funches with continued development of Lazzard has us looking good on the outside.

              IMO adding Regor to all this will have us doing more “Lambeau Leaps” if you know what i mean.
              We need speed at WR period. Inside and outside.

              MVS is fast, but straightlinish. Curious to see what ESB can do this year.
              wist

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              • I would have loved to see KJ Hamler's Pro Day, also Higgins and Van Johnson

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                • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  Lets' have a fun debate ? ORDER OF PREFERENCE BETWEEEN

                  Jefferson
                  Jaegor
                  Mims
                  Shennault
                  Higgins


                  AND WHY ?

                  To me I'd throw those all in a lump of about the same. Aiyuk I think is too raw to be in with the above, but that's just me
                  I really like Aiyuk. I just don’t like him in first round. If the plan is to address another area in 1st then Aiyuk in 2nd would be a good option if available.

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                  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                    We need speed at WR period. Inside and outside.

                    MVS is fast, but straightlinish. Curious to see what ESB can do this year.
                    Right. We have some long strider speed. We need short area speed, quickness with the ability to explode from anywhere on the field. Someone who is shifty and can turn things on a dime.

                    To me the best guy all things considered is Reagor.

                    Would it be nice to get another outside weapon? Sure.

                    Reagor in 1st and Aiyuk in 2nd wouldn’t have me complaining. They have done it with DB’s(Randall and Rollins). Let’s do it at Receiver and put together another “Fantastic Five”. We’re running out of time.

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                      • And if they lay off the Cephus for some reason then Quez Watkins better be the guy they get instead.

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                        • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                          Mims - think the sky's the limit for this kid. Fast, quick. Didn't have great QB play, and that held him back some. Love his route running, high points the ball. No concern about playing outside.

                          Reagor - like his quickness in and out of his cuts. Kick returner. Explosive player.

                          Jefferson - great college production, mostly out of the slot. Can he play outside?? Ran well at the combine, but not sure he can win outside, which is why I have him below Mims and Reagor.

                          Higgins - little bit high cut. Not great speed. High points ball well, good route runner.

                          Aiyuk - he's raw, very limited route tree. Like his upside though. There are other players I like at pick 62 that I'd rather go with though. If he drops to the 3rd, then yes.

                          Shenault - not sure what to make of him. Not overly impressed with his tape. They used him him in a variety of ways. Looks more like a RB.

                          I'd agree but I'd put Shenault over Aiyuk. With that being said, I'd be happy with either in round two as well
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                            I would have loved to see KJ Hamler's Pro Day, also Higgins and Van Johnson
                            Do you have anymore info on Hunt?? As I said, I wasn't aware he was injured.
                            wist

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                            • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                              Mims - think the sky's the limit for this kid. Fast, quick. Didn't have great QB play, and that held him back some. Love his route running, high points the ball. No concern about playing outside.

                              Reagor - like his quickness in and out of his cuts. Kick returner. Explosive player.

                              Jefferson - great college production, mostly out of the slot. Can he play outside?? Ran well at the combine, but not sure he can win outside, which is why I have him below Mims and Reagor.

                              Higgins - little bit high cut. Not great speed. High points ball well, good route runner.

                              Aiyuk - he's raw, very limited route tree. Like his upside though. There are other players I like at pick 62 that I'd rather go with though. If he drops to the 3rd, then yes.

                              Shenault - not sure what to make of him. Not overly impressed with his tape. They used him him in a variety of ways. Looks more like a RB.
                              Of these guys who do you think is the one that is best at beating “press coverage”?

                              I agree with Shenault. Feels like Ty Montgomery all over again.
                              Last edited by GB-Brandon; 04-12-2020, 08:46 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                                Do you have anymore info on Hunt?? As I said, I wasn't aware he was injured.
                                It was apparently a normal procedure groin surgery.

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