Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[Freak Out]

Dane Brugler Total Mock: https://theathletic.com/1736730/2020...and-255-picks/

Green Bay Packers
1 (30) WR Justin Jefferson, LSU
2 (62) OT Ben Bartch, St. John’s (Minn.)
3 (94) TE Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri
4 (136) LB Justin Strnad, Wake Forest
5 (175) CB A.J. Green, Oklahoma State
6 (192) RB Lamical Perine, Florida
6 (208) DL Robert Windsor, Penn State
6 (209) DS Daniel Thomas, Auburn
7 (236) WR Quartney Davis, Texas A&M
7 (242) OG/C Calvin Throckmorton, Oregon

Few collegiate resumes are as impressive as Throckmorton’s. A four-year starter, he started 52 straight games for the Ducks at four positions (everywhere on the line except left guard), allowing only one sack over his final 45 starts in college.

That would be nice.

[run pMc]

That would be nice.

Agree. That would be a decent draft.

KJ Hamler is your guy if you want elite level quickness and route running.

Yes, but I worry about his size and hands. He has a high drop percentage, and little receivers don't stay healthy very long in the NFL. Gute's propensity for big WRs makes drafting a 5'9" guy unlikely.

[pbmax]

Is Lamical Perin related to Sam Perine from a few years ago?

[GB-Brandon]

I’d rather see them potentially trade back from 30 a few spots and then consolidate all those late round picks to move back up into the top 175 and get the most bites of the Apple in that range as possible. Probably be able to come away with 6-7 really good picks.

The only player i would be interested in trading up for in the 1st round is Kinlaw and that’s if he somehow makes it down somewhere in the 20’s.

[GB-Brandon]

Agree. That would be a decent draft.


Yes, but I worry about his size and hands. He has a high drop percentage, and little receivers don't stay healthy very long in the NFL. Gute's propensity for big WRs makes drafting a 5'9" guy unlikely.

Well he drafted a corner under 6’0(which the Packers never did) and it worked out pretty well I’d say.

I’ve always been for the bigger bodied receivers myself but the game has changed and not having guys that can beat press coverage or win one on one has to change.

[hoosier]

If past is prologue, they don't take a WR or ILB in Round 1. I think its trade down or the usual EDGE, DL, OL or CB.

Could change if they truly believe a WR or ILB is worth the first and someone drops.

If past is prologue, Gute does something different this time around

[Bretsky]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2020/04/13/patrick-queen-gives-green-bay-packers-shot-another-lsu-linebacker-sky-high-ceiling/2928594001/

[wist43]

I like Queen a lot, but I'd be shocked if they take Queen at 30... assuming he were even there.

Players I like that I expect to be gone are Queen, Murray, and Mims. The OT's will be gone... if they want Bartch, I suspect they may have to trade up from 62.

Reagor will probably be there, maybe Blacklock too.

Fairly deep draft at the top... not a lot to seperate players 25-75. Trade down might be in order.

Don't want Lewis there. I like Jefferson, but would want to trade down - not sure he can play outside.

[run pMc]

Is Lamical Perin related to Sam Perine from a few years ago?

Younger brother I believe.

[texaspackerbacker]

They won't take Lewis or another edge rusher unless they've completely given up on Gary, which I really doubt. Besides, Alabama players tend to look better than they are - the system or whatever.

They better not take an O Lineman in the first round - too many fail.

They probably can get an excellent WR in the second or third round. The only one I'd even consider is Reagor. I don't want Jefferson or anybody else who ain't burner fast.

Blacklock would be good if he's there at 30. No other D Lineman seems good enough for our #1.

We definitely should not use a first or second round pick for an ILB because of Pettine's style of D.

I hate it when we trade down, but it might not be a bad move. It wouldn't bother me if they took Jonathan Taylor at 30 or maybe after a slight trade down. I absolutely wouldn't take any other RB before the late rounds.

[pbmax]

Well he drafted a corner under 6’0(which the Packers never did) and it worked out pretty well I’d say.

I’ve always been for the bigger bodied receivers myself but the game has changed and not having guys that can beat press coverage or win one on one has to change.

The cutoff was Terrell Buckley and it was 5-10 or -11. Either way it was a poor benchmark.

EDIT: I think I recall Wolf saying they broke the rule for Buckley and then vowed never to do it again. I think Buckley was a shade under 5' 10" (wikipedia has him at 5.10).

EDIT 2: http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/p...02039891.html/

McGinn listed him at 5' 9"

EDIT 3: Did anyone else know that Scot McCloughan's father was Kent McCloughan, the Raider CB and one of the prototypes for 6 foot tall CBs (also Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Willie Brown and Skip Thomas)

Lester Hayes is listed as being 6' 2" I don't remember him being that big.

[GB-Brandon]

The cutoff was Terrell Buckley and it was 5-10 or -11. Either way it was a poor benchmark.

EDIT: I think I recall Wolf saying they broke the rule for Buckley and then vowed never to do it again. I think Buckley was a shade under 5' 10" (wikipedia has him at 5.10).

EDIT 2: http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/p...02039891.html/

McGinn listed him at 5' 9"

EDIT 3: Did anyone else know that Scot McCloughan's father was Kent McCloughan, the Raider CB and one of the prototypes for 6 foot tall CBs (also Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Willie Brown and Skip Thomas)

Lester Hayes is listed as being 6' 2" I don't remember him being that big.

My main point I was trying to make here is the Packers best corners the past decade were/are J. Alexander 5’10, T. Williams 5’11 and Sam Shields 5’10. Two of these guys weren’t even drafted and were UDFA’s so the “benchmark” is a fraud based on their cumulative production. Yes, it’s nice to get bigger and faster players who might be more durable but making that a requirement I just think hinders your ability to field the best roster possible.

Now as far as Hamler we’re getting all the way down to 5’9 175lbs. IMO, he is a faster and more explosive version of Tyler Lockett and draws parallels to “Hollywood Brown” who was picked by the Ravens last year rather early. Yes, this would be unprecedented for the Packers to use a top 64 pick on a receiver of this stature so I can understand some push back. It’s a tough call but if the Packers lose out on Reagor and They believe Hamler will make this offense more explosive and better overall they should absolutely not pass him up due too his measurables.

[GB-Brandon]

They won't take Lewis or another edge rusher unless they've completely given up on Gary, which I really doubt. Besides, Alabama players tend to look better than they are - the system or whatever.

They better not take an O Lineman in the first round - too many fail.

They probably can get an excellent WR in the second or third round. The only one I'd even consider is Reagor. I don't want Jefferson or anybody else who ain't burner fast.

Blacklock would be good if he's there at 30. No other D Lineman seems good enough for our #1.

We definitely should not use a first or second round pick for an ILB because of Pettine's style of D.

I hate it when we trade down, but it might not be a bad move. It wouldn't bother me if they took Jonathan Taylor at 30 or maybe after a slight trade down. I absolutely wouldn't take any other RB before the late rounds.

I couldn’t agree more. He has two elite edge rushers along with an Elite DT upfront. He also has one of the most talented secondary’s in the the entire league. He has a top 12 talent to develop. The $ and resources given to him have been 1st rate. He needs to take what has been given to him and scheme a unit that can compete. If he can’t accomplish that with everything he has been given then we have the wrong man for the job.

Mentally picturing him even sitting in the draft room bandstanding for more top tier talent is a pathetic visual.

[Deputy Nutz]

There you go getting carried away about the Packers secondary. They are no where near elite.


AJ Epenesa has been dropping due to his poor combine. He was once promoted as a sure fire top 15 pick. He is 6'6" 280 pounds and what would you think of him as the Packers' first round draft pick? He is a very solid pass rusher and would look good in the Packers nickel and dime schemes getting after the passer.

[GB-Brandon]

There you go getting carried away about the Packers secondary. They are no where near elite.


AJ Epenesa has been dropping due to his poor combine. He was once promoted as a sure fire top 15 pick. He is 6'6" 280 pounds and what would you think of him as the Packers' first round draft pick? He is a very solid pass rusher and would look good in the Packers nickel and dime schemes getting after the passer.

I said “One of the most Talented” and I stand by that.

Alexander- Top Pick and Pro Bowl level corner

Amos- Top 5 safety with a combined PFF rating over 80 last 4 years.

Savage- All-Rookie honors and they traded up in 1st to get him.

King- Top pick with elite size/speed combo who has dealt with injuries. Many thought he would be the next Richard Sherman.

I didn’t endorse any of these moves except Alexander. However, the fact is combined they are very talented and fast and athletic. I wasn’t on this board when these guys were accumulated but where I was EVERYONE HAD TO HAVE THEM. Well, now we have them and too some there still not good enough. We basically have three no.1 picks back there with an upper tier FA signing. Pettine needs to make it WORK!!!

I believe Epenesa to be a good football player but would not be happy with him being the first pick. They need too develop Gary as the 3rd pass rusher and once again it falls on Pettine to make that happen. We’re not in any position to be making luxury picks at this stage in the game. Pass rush wasn’t our glaring weakness. Stopping the run was. We don’t need anymore players on defense that allow us too have anymore “exotic pass rush looks”.

What we need is some guys that can line up and occupy there space and shut down running lanes while not allowing other teams running the ball right down our throat!!!!