Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[pbmax]

That depends on what you mean by style.

I think they could re-scheme with the players they have to counter SFs run game. Mostly requires better discipline.

(As opposed to needing to bring in 2-3 new guys and totally scrapping their defense).

My thinking is that if the KC defense can stop SF, so can GB - at least enough to win a ball game with an improved better-than-the-Titans clock controlling offense

Sorry, my statement was confusing. There is some thought that changing the Packers offense to a heavier run emphasis will help the D. But even advocates of this approach always add "later in the game".

A run heavy play script and not having an early, big lead is not going to help the Packers D in the first quarter.

If they want the offense to help the D versus SF, stopping turnovers would be the best way.

[Upnorth]

Here is how m4 thinks our o can help the d even in the first.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/29/new-packers-rb-a-j-dillon-was-a-destroyer-of-stacked-boxes/

His thinking is to help keep the d fresh and extend our drives. At least that is what I see looks like the plan.

[pbmax]

Here is how m4 thinks our o can help the d even in the first.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/29/new-packers-rb-a-j-dillon-was-a-destroyer-of-stacked-boxes/

His thinking is to help keep the d fresh and extend our drives. At least that is what I see looks like the plan.

My suspicion, until the offense proves it would be wise to adjust, is that defenses will continue to defend Rodgers first.

The offense had a whiff of Dan Reeves Broncos last year, start off with the game plan and struggle at times. Then need heroics from the extended offense/shotgun.

So Dillon and Daguerreotype will be in there at times to look heavy and then to pass off play action. In other words, to get the defense to commit to the run like they don't against Rodgers normally.

[ThunderDan]

My suspicion, until the offense proves it would be wise to adjust, is that defenses will continue to defend Rodgers first.

The offense had a whiff of Dan Reeves Broncos last year, start off with the game plan and struggle at times. Then need heroics from the extended offense/shotgun.

So Dillon and Daguerreotype will be in there at times to look heavy and then to pass off play action. In other words, to get the defense to commit to the run like they don't against Rodgers normally.

That’s my thought too. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a Finley or Nelson to make the D pay for moving up to stop the run?

If I am a D coordinator, I drop one safety in the box put my other safety back and tell him his primary responsibility is Devante. Let every one else play man-to-man. The Packers will struggle against that D unless it learns to convert a lot of the 3rd downs it didn’t in 2019.

[Upnorth]

And Dillion is exeactly how we get the tough 3rd downs that were Jones one weakness last year. Extend then drive and make the d honor our run game more.

At least that is the plan.

[pbmax]

A good review of what happened by Demovsky, includes the fact that LaFLeur and Rodgers spoke after the pick. Which is more communication than I thought had happened.

But the article contains a piece of info about Josiah Deguara that brings to mind the Torrance Marshall pick:

Still, those savvy enough to read between the lines in the post-draft comments could surmise that if LaFleur truly had nothing to do with the Love pick, then how to explain the third-round pick of tight end/H-back Josiah Deguara?

Perhaps Gutekunst, after taking Love, allowed LaFleur a pick of his own.

"I'm very close with the offensive coordinator at Cincinnati, Mike Denbrock," LaFleur said. "And he raves about the guy."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29117914/a-first-round-qb-packers-gamble-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers

[pbmax]

What happens after a period of losing more than you are used to (and is not wiped out by going 13-3) is that pretty basic events in training camp are blown way out of proportion.

EDIT: link below has been corrcted, originally gave a story about Alex Smith having necrotic fasciitis.

Elsewhere at ESPN, you can read a piece about how young players will need thick skin. Tom Brady once derisively asked a Guard if they had never seen an E-T stunt at Penn State.

But in Packerland, Rodgers, apparently unnecessarily, to the point of rendering the GM afraid to take a WR with a high pick, "ripped into the Packers' young wideouts" (from same article above)

His frustration stemmed from the fact that the young players -- most likely the young receivers -- didn't seem to be giving the drill the effort it deserved. The task is seemingly simple: read the card that shows the play the coaches want run in order to give the No. 1 defense the look it will see from the Titans.

"It was one of the worst cards sessions we've had," Rodgers said. "I don't know how you can make it any simpler. You literally have what the play would be in our terminology on the card, and the effort level was very low, especially with what I'm accustomed to. I've been running that period for a number of years. So it's not a good start for us on the card period for the young guys. I think [DeAngelo] Yancey has really progressed, G-Mo [Geronimo Allison]. Obviously, 16 [Jake Kumerow]. But everybody else was kind of piss poor."

Quote is here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...level-practice

[texaspackerbacker]

Here is how m4 thinks our o can help the d even in the first.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/29/new-packers-rb-a-j-dillon-was-a-destroyer-of-stacked-boxes/

His thinking is to help keep the d fresh and extend our drives. At least that is what I see looks like the plan.

hahahaha When I saw your lead in, I thought the article was gonna be about how the Packers avoided speedy home run hitter WRs.

Based on the article, Dillon should thrive. We don't get stacked boxes against the Packers. If he wants to hit somebody, he can be like Jim Taylor - seek a DB and target him.

[mraynrand]

But the article contains a piece of info about Josiah Deguara that brings to mind the Torrance Marshall pick:

Was there something there about a girlfriend?

[mraynrand]

What happens after a period of losing more than you are used to (and is not wiped out by going 13-3) is that pretty basic events in training camp are blown way out of proportion.

Elsewhere at ESPN, you can read a piece about how young players will need thick skin. Tom Brady once derisively asked a Guard if they had never seen an E-T stunt at Penn State.

But in Packerland, Rodgers, apparently unnecessarily, to the point of rendering the GM afraid to take a WR with a high pick, "ripped into the Packers' young wideouts" (from same article above)



Quote is here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...level-practice

Why are you recycling this?

[pbmax]

Why are you recycling this?

Wasn't aware I had. But there is painting happening so I might be loopy on fumes.

I did have a bad link that I fixed, so that it points to the correct Brady story to compare to Rodgers.

[mraynrand]

Wasn't aware I had. But there is painting happening so I might be loopy on fumes.

I did have a bad link that I fixed, so that it points to the correct Brady story to compare to Rodgers.

Oh I see. I didn’t even look at the Brady thing.

[pbmax]

Young people. If he had mentioned Brian Williams instead (though not a first round pick), I might have forgiven it.

But for as close as Green Bay appeared last year, the Packers are still not as close as they appear. The defensive line needs a complement to Kenny Clark. Inside linebacker is a position that has been overlooked for years. Going back to 1993, Wayne Simmons (1993), Nick Barnett (2003) and A.J. Hawk (2006) were the only inside linebackers taken in the first round. This team hasn't had a dynamic presence at tight end since Jermichael Finley and Javon Walker was the last wide receiver taken in the first round in 2002.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/corys-corner-who-has-more-pressure-649?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Bretsky]

Young people. If he had mentioned Brian Williams instead (though not a first round pick), I might have forgiven it.



https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/corys-...medium=twitter

To be fair much of this is ThanksTed's Fault

Gutebag has only sucked drafting for two years

[pbmax]

To be fair much of this is ThanksTed's Fault

Gutebag has only sucked drafting for two years

That includes a lot of Wolf drafts too. Their version of roster construction just don't prioritize these positions.

The went and got Savage when there was literally no one else available to play deep safety on the roster. And that is about it. We probably could have figured out they weren't gong ILB in the first two or three rounds when they signed Kirksey.