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    Just days away from finding out which head coaches will be shown the door.

    Jay Gruden and Ron Rivera of course are already gone. Talk seems to be that Matt Patricia in Detroit and Dan Quinn in in Atlanta are safe.

    The heat is really on Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland. Team has been dysfunctional in so many ways. Wouldn't this be a natural spot for McCarthy?

    I think Pat Shurmur of Giants gets another shot. Team has been pretty competitive with a rookie at QB. His future might be tied to the fate of GM Dave Gettleman though.

    If Jason Garrett of Dallas hasn't already started clearing out his desk, he should have. How many times during Sunday's game will the cameras pan from Garrett to Jerruh up in the booth?

    A second straight 5 win season will probably get Doug Marrone the boot in Jacksonville.

    Not sure what to make of the Matt Nagy situation in Chicago. One year removed from a 12 win season. However, Bears can't be happy that Trubisky declined this year. Do they blame Nagy? Nagy was supposed to bring an Andy Reid-type offense to Chicago. Hasn't happened.

    Really strange situation with L.A. Chargers and Anthony Lynn. They will be heading into a new stadium with no fan base and an aging QB. Lynn is respected, but will they want to bring in a new name to drum up some fan support?
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

  • #2
    I'm getting closer than I was to thinking Garrett will go, but just because media pukes think it's happening doesn't mean shit. Jerry Jones is more likely to spit in their face and keep Garrett just to spite those media bastards than he is to succumb to pressure or whatever from them if Garrett still has his confidence. Cowboy inconsistency, though, may be making that confidence erode ...... or not.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #3
      I think Kitchens, Morrone, and Garrett are done in that order from most to least likely. Kitchens has not been able to control that team and Mayfield didn't progress like they'd hoped. Does Dorsey can him after one year?
      JAX already fired Coughlin and it seems like they are looking to rebuild/retool. I think they do that with a new coach.
      If they win the NFCE division maybe they keep Garrett, but Jerrah hasn't reupped his contract and they have underperformed which is not a great sign. Garrett will get swept up by another team right away.

      Shurmur I have no idea, I think he's 50/50. Same with Lynn...Rivers looked washed up in a few games (vs. MIN), even if he killed GB. Nagy and Patricia are safe IMO but next season is make or break for them.

      I wonder about Zac Taylor in CIN. That team often looked outcoached in the bits of games I caught with them, but Mike Brown probably gives him another chance because he doesn't want to eat that contract.

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      • #4
        Atlanta announced Quinn and McVay are coming back.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Atlanta announced Quinn and McVay are coming back.
          Completely blown away, I've lived in Atlanta on/off for a decade and he was basically considered dead man walking since week 7 or so. He shoulda been fired after the super bowl honestly, but he's under .500 since with one playoff appearance. I don't get it at all. But somehow it's just so Atlanta. What a disastrous sports year there.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
            Completely blown away, I've lived in Atlanta on/off for a decade and he was basically considered dead man walking since week 7 or so. He shoulda been fired after the super bowl honestly, but he's under .500 since with one playoff appearance. I don't get it at all. But somehow it's just so Atlanta. What a disastrous sports year there.
            I almost could understand Quinn if you thought McVay had screwed up evaluating the defense for 3 straight years.

            But then what changed the last 2 months?

            EDIT: MY bad, it was GM Thomas Dimitroff not McVay who was on the hot seat and is now back for a year. And its not McVay, but Rick McKay. McKay is now on top of the two silos.

            When Quinn was hired in February 2015, he answered not to Dimitroff, then as now the retainer of his GM job, but to the high-profile owner. Now Quinn and Dimitroff will report to McKay, who will report to Blank, who reports to nobody. This in itself should lead to 13 wins next season, easy. Yes, I’m kidding.
            This guy ain't happy: https://www.ajc.com/blog/mark-bradle...6O4zbxx4CAxsM/
            Last edited by pbmax; 12-28-2019, 08:16 AM.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              Yeah, everyone thought Quinn might not make it thru the season... but he's somewhat turned the team around with a few recent wins, and maybe that sold the team on keeping him. Still, I don't see them as an ascending team. The roster is aging and the newer talent isn't playing as good.

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              • #8
                I could see M3 in Cleveland.
                The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                Vince Lombardi

                "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                • #9
                  Quinn's team played motivated after they were already 1-6. After Not making the playoffs last year. Not sure that should be enough to keep him around. It's strange because virtually everyone thought his tenure was done months ago.

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                  • #10
                    Garrett's gonna be fired. He's lost the team and really is not a good coach at all.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #11
                      Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
                      Former #Panthers coach Ron Rivera has emerged as a top coaching candidate & has told people he expects a deal to come together quickly, sources say. It could even be 24 hours after Week 17 ends. The #Redskins have interest, tho other teams without openings yet are also circling.


                      Marvin Lewis also being reported to be in Washington's sights.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        Word broke earlier today that Marrone was going to be fired after Week 17. He had met with owner and team officials this week. Team denies that is the schedule.


                        Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
                        Statement from Jim Woodcock, #Jaguars owner Shad Khan’s spokesman: "Reports that Doug Marrone will be dismissed after Sunday’s game are 100 percent incorrect. Owner Shad Khan will meet with his football staff, which includes coaching and personnel, midweek next week.”
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                          Garrett's gonna be fired. He's lost the team and really is not a good coach at all.
                          Agree on first two points.

                          With Jerry interfering at every level, idk if an accurate judgement on Garrett's ability can be made.

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                          • #14
                            Has anyone heard about McCarthy to Dallas? I haven't really heard anything personally but to me it seems like a good fit. He'd have to check his ego at the door and run the dang ball a bit more. But there's a lot of raw material to work with. I can't imagine going with a college coach or something over Big Mike and his proven track record.

                            I wish Big Mike would have gone on a diet and worked more with a trainer during his year off. I feel like he'd be a much more effective coach if he weighed 80 pounds less.

                            Carolina is sort of an unknown with new owners but I still feel better about Big Mike succeeding there than I do in Cleveland with Haslem running the show.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                              I could see M3 in Cleveland.
                              McCarthy wants to hire game theorists. Dorsey just got rid of Cleveland’s analytics department. “We ain’t need no math nerds”, qouteth Dorsey. Besides, Kitchen ain’t black. He ain’t going anywhere soon. Only black coaches get the one-n-done treatment, yo.

                              I have put $20 on McCarthy coaching the Seagulls next season. Schneider has been engaged in a fishy conspiracy to overthrow Carroll since #35 of the Packers sealed McCarthy’s fate with that dropped Larry Brown pick, along with a little help from Crosby (missed fg that woulda sent game to OT).

                              McCarthy and Schneider are buds. Schneider even set McCarthy up with a - married - MILF, or so I heard.

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