It's Gutey Time

[texaspackerbacker]

Seems like we're all in agreement, the biggest trouble spot is the D Line. Yet we get this press conference where it seems like LaFleur thinks otherwise. That's a little bit disturbing.

Fritz, "gaping" is two bad running plays in a row - the penetration is so strong that there's still a big hole for the next play.

Looking back on the season, I don't think the 14-4 was really a mirage so much as the whole league was kinda down this year - just a few good teams and a lot of mediocre at best ones who were able to beat despite various deficiencies.

[GB-Brandon]

I’ve always been a believer that great push and pressure upfront covers up a lot of deficiencies on the back end while lack of it exposes those same deficiencies “ten fold”.

I am actually going to the draft this year in Las Vegas and if the Packers use up another top pick on a DB I just might stay there.

[Joemailman]

In my opinion Lowry went from being an above average backup/rotational guy to a below average starter. He can play, but they need someone better than him to line up next to Clark. Gutey overpaid for him, but he can still be effective in a lesser role.

[pbmax]

I think "gaping" is a search term that will get you in trouble.

"Gapping" means you are playing one or two specific areas or responsibility along the LOS.

[GB-Brandon]

In my opinion Lowry went from being an above average backup/rotational guy to a below average starter. He can play, but they need someone better than him to line up next to Clark. Gutey overpaid for him, but he can still be effective in a lesser role.

Looks like a bad contract right now(don’t save any $ by letting him go) and it might get in the way because they gotta extend Clark and I think they need two new guys on top of that to safeguard from injury. Let me remind everyone that the niners aren’t going anywhere looking at how they are built. I don’t believe in building a team to beat one particular team but they will most likely be in our way again.

It’s tough because I was hoping this was the year they could finally go WR in 1st.

[Joemailman]

Looks like a bad contract right now(don’t save any $ by letting him go) and it might get in the way because they gotta extend Clark and I think they need two new guys on top of that to safeguard from injury. Let me remind everyone that the niners aren’t going anywhere looking at how they are built. I don’t believe in building a team to beat one particular team but they will most likely be in our way again.

It’s tough because I was hoping this was the year they could finally go WR in 1st.

I think the strength of this WR class negates the need to go WR in the 1st. Some are saying this group is better than the great WR group of 2014 when Davante Adams was the 9th WR drafted. Not that I'll complain if Gutey takes Reagor at #30.

[GB-Brandon]

I think the strength of this WR class negates the need to go WR in the 1st. Some are saying this group is better than the great WR group of 2014 when Davante Adams was the 9th WR drafted. Not that I'll complain if Gutey takes Reagor at #30.

I think it’s better then 2014. It’s 14-15 deep with some real nice sleepers after that.

Yeah, I wouldn’t complain a bit if Reagor was the pick either.

[wist43]

I think Gute has done a very good job so far... he had a lot of mess to fix.

Keep building on what he started.

WR, DL, ILB

We need at least 1 Kenny Clark quality type of player on the DL, and hopefully Keke will step up. Let Martinez walk. Burks was Gute's biggest WTF pick so far... hopefully, he got that out of his system.

[pbmax]

Bill Huber
YAC attack? Not with the #Packers receivers. They forced a total of nine missed tackles, according to @PFF.

18 individual receivers had more.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/packers-receivers-failed-to-provide-yac-attack

[Joemailman]

Bill Huber
YAC attack? Not with the #Packers receivers. They forced a total of nine missed tackles, according to @PFF.

18 individual receivers had more.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/...ide-yac-attack

Is some of this on the QB though? Seems to me you have less chance to break a tackle if you're having to reach back, up or down to catch the ball. Catching a ball in stride gives you a batter chance to get momentum or make a move that can lead to a broken tackle.

[pbmax]

Is some of this on the QB though? Seems to me you have less chance to break a tackle if you're having to reach back, up or down to catch the ball. Catching a ball in stride gives you a batter chance to get momentum or make a move that can lead to a broken tackle.

You might think that, unless you have seen Lewis, Graham and Allison in action. I don't remember which game, but a wind gust once stopped Allison for no gain on 2nd down on the North side of the field. I think it went through Section 109's entranceway. Brutal.

Sure, some of it is on the QB, who didn't get his short game accuracy into gear until Adams got hurt and never figured out the deep ball. And he was always good until the playoffs for 2-3 throws that were unnecessarily difficult.

But even when in stride, receivers got nowhere. Graham actually hit the accelerator once or twice in the playoffs, but that was it. And the receivers don't fit the offense, or, at least don't fit what is needed. Big slot guy WR failed this year and no one developed. In retrospect, anticipating WR's develop AND learn a new offense with their QB was too much to expect.

So you can change the offense, the QB, or get two new WR.

If Gute rolls with this WR crew again, he might be ending two careers.

Failing to have a backup QB to challenge, Gute has to know the answer here.

[Joemailman]

I wasn't suggesting they need to change the QB, just that they might have more broken tackles if the QB threw more accurately.

I don't see Gute going with the same WR group. ESB will be back, and he'll draft at least 1 by the 3rd round.

[pbmax]

I wasn't suggesting they need to change the QB, just that they might have more broken tackles if the QB threw more accurately.

I don't see Gute going with the same WR group. ESB will be back, and he'll draft at least 1 by the 3rd round.

If its MVS getting those throws, perhaps. But I am not sure Graham, Lewis or Allison get much more. I have never seen receiver get less yards resisting tackles than Allison. Terry Glenn got more YAC falling forward, head down, to avoid contact than Allison.

[run pMc]

YAC and broken tackles is not a thing with the WRs, which is weird considering they are big (well, tall at least).
Allison is neither quick nor fast, and at 6-3 200 not gonna truck a lot of tacklers. His playing style isn't a physical one either.

Agree with joe on ESB coming back and Gute drafting at least one before Day 2 ends. I figure ESB will replace Allison, Lazard can play some Z with Adams at X, they draft 2 guys to replace Kumerow and push MVS. I know MVS had a few injuries, I wonder if those plus the new offense got him.

At TE I like Lewis better than Graham, although I appreciate that Jimmy did improve his blocking this year. All they really have there is Sternberger. Tonyan is not a starter (unless he really makes a Year3 jump) and they need more from the TE spot IMO.

[Fritz]

If its MVS getting those throws, perhaps. But I am not sure Graham, Lewis or Allison get much more. I have never seen receiver get less yards resisting tackles than Allison. Terry Glenn got more YAC falling forward, head down, to avoid contact than Allison.

Allison is the Richard "Sack O' Potatoes" Rodgers of wide receivers.