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  • #46
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Man, you’re just as dumb as O’Day. Back to ignoring you after this post.
    I'll have the usual.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #47
      What's more likely to be successful: The players saying F you to the owners and starting their own league, or the owners says F you and finding replacement players? To me, talent wins out and the average person knows who Tom Brady is, but has no idea who Bob Kraft is. The public already gets fucked into subsidizing these stadiums so from my perspective anyone should be able to use 'em that can pay the rent.

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      • #48
        So you’re saying that on field football talent can build an entire league involving stadiums, broadcasting, advertising, etcetera. They’d need a lot of luck to pull that off by themselves.
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #49
          The 2 sides need each other. Players could not form a new league that would be the equivalent of what the NFL is now. The NFL would not be successful with replacement players.
          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #50
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            So you’re saying that on field football talent can build an entire league involving stadiums, broadcasting, advertising, etcetera. They’d need a lot of luck to pull that off by themselves.
            Nope, but i am raising the question of who is the commodity here, and it’s the old white dudes, not the young players. The owners aren’t fucked if the players don’t play, but they need the best players or their league will gradually fall off. I think the players should wait them out for a 50/50 split at a minimum.

            There’s wayyyy more people with money then there are people able to play in the NFL and put a top notch product on the field. The players could get a better deal from them, too. It'll never happen, but as far as supply and demand goes, there's more demand for good players because they're in short supply compared to old rich dudes who are in ample supply.
            Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 03-01-2020, 11:03 AM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              The 2 sides need each other. Players could not form a new league that would be the equivalent of what the NFL is now. The NFL would not be successful with replacement players.
              The voice of reason.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                The voice of reason.
                Agreed.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  The 2 sides need each other. Players could not form a new league that would be the equivalent of what the NFL is now. The NFL would not be successful with replacement players.

                  They would eventually. I didn't say "Well, Eller, Marshall, Page and Larsen are gone. Well, that was fun. I guess I'll do something else. It's the uni's we root for as every one of you know.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                    They would eventually. I didn't say "Well, Eller, Marshall, Page and Larsen are gone. Well, that was fun. I guess I'll do something else. It's the uni's we root for as every one of you know.
                    Perhaps. But it would take a hit. I don't follow the Browns unis anymore and I was not going to follow the Ravens.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                      They would eventually. I didn't say "Well, Eller, Marshall, Page and Larsen are gone. Well, that was fun. I guess I'll do something else. It's the uni's we root for as every one of you know.
                      I haven't watched any of the XFL until it was on in a bar. It is like watching a college football game. I am not going to be spending my time with the XFL.

                      If the NFL product got as bad, I would watch the Badgers on Saturday and pass on Sundays.
                      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                      -Tim Harmston

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Perhaps. But it would take a hit. I don't follow the Browns unis anymore and I was not going to follow the Ravens.
                        Come to think about it, if not for Favre and Reggie and Holmgren and Wolf, might not be watching pro football much at all.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #57
                          Andrew Brandt @AndrewBrandt
                          Seeing a slew of NFL teams releasing veterans under contract now. Tens of millions of scheduled salaries now will turn to dust. But hey, trust the NFL when they say their proposed 11-year CBA is a good deal for the Players..
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #58
                            I think the players should vote NO, but I also don't think the deal is all that bad --- except for the 17th game.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                              I think the players should vote NO, but I also don't think the deal is all that bad --- except for the 17th game.

                              The 17th game should also eliminate two preseason games and add a bye
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #60
                                I always harp on it, but I think the league should just have 3 preseason games and have 3 byes with 16 games. There's added TV revenue because there are more games being broadcast in total, even though hometowns will still only see 8 games.

                                I might just be stubborn, but it seems like all of the burden for the 17th/18th games fall on the players and they're only getting 47% of the benefit. For anyone arguing that the first 16 games are that way, there was quite a bit of historical risk that the league undertook, which current players didn't have to pay anything for.

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