Official 2020 NFL Combine Thread

[mraynrand]

He is going top 12 most likely. Calvin Ridley ran a 4.4 and jumped 30 inches and still went in 1st round.

The combine is just one piece of the evaluation process. There are great Football players that are really good athletes just like there are very bad football players who are supreme athletes. The trick is being able to process it all correctly.

yep. I would also look to the receiver that has the highest scores in ESP and parapsychology. The WR who can read Rodger's minds is far more valuable than 0.2 in the 40.

[Deputy Nutz]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver. This 40 time really sunk Cephus. His other numbers we very decent to above average for his position.

Reagor showed out and had some decent numbers I think he might move into the top tier the wolf pack of 3 may have just turned into a wolf pack of 4.

When everyone else is running and participating it should be a black eye for guys like Higgins from Clemson when they don't participate in the combine or Jefferson from Florida. There were definitely guys that bumped their draft stock at their expense. Higgins was a fringe day 1 guy and Jefferson was fringe second round pick. Hamler from Penn St didn't run either. Hamler needed to run at the combine because of his size he needs to prove his speed and quickness are legit enough to be considered at the end of the first round to the middle of the second round.

No one has mentioned the complete domination of the Combine by Donovan Peoples-Jones. 4.48, 44.5 vertical, and 139 broad jump. His film is a bit erratic, but he might now be in the conversation for a high second round pick.

[mraynrand]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver.

It does set him up as the logical successor to Geronimo Alison.

[Deputy Nutz]

If I was Cephus, I would want to get the hell out of Wisconsin.

[Deputy Nutz]

http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=thursday

[Deputy Nutz]

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...l-combine-2020

Nice little article on Baun

[call_me_ishmael]

OMG I cannot believe Cephus ran a 4.73. For all the positive buzz I heard about 40 times yesterday, I am surprised I didn't hear that negative time mentioned. Is he Anquan Boldin?

[run pMc]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver. This 40 time really sunk Cephus. His other numbers we very decent to above average for his position.

Reagor showed out and had some decent numbers I think he might move into the top tier the wolf pack of 3 may have just turned into a wolf pack of 4.

When everyone else is running and participating it should be a black eye for guys like Higgins from Clemson when they don't participate in the combine or Jefferson from Florida. There were definitely guys that bumped their draft stock at their expense. Higgins was a fringe day 1 guy and Jefferson was fringe second round pick. Hamler from Penn St didn't run either. Hamler needed to run at the combine because of his size he needs to prove his speed and quickness are legit enough to be considered at the end of the first round to the middle of the second round.

No one has mentioned the complete domination of the Combine by Donovan Peoples-Jones. 4.48, 44.5 vertical, and 139 broad jump. His film is a bit erratic, but he might now be in the conversation for a high second round pick.

I'd take Lamb over Ruggs. I think both are real good but Lamb just looks so smooth and has really good ball skills. He looks like a pro.
Cephus had a mixed day, some of his work was excellent but that 40 time is going to scare some teams. He'll need to run a 4.55 to be considered a R4 pick and with the depth of the WR group that might be very optimistic.
Yeah, DP-J had a very good day. IIRC Van Jefferson didn't run because he has a foot injury. I'm honestly not sure why Hamler and Higgins decided not to run - AFAIK they aren't injured, and even if you don't run fast in the 40 you have your Pro Day to rerun it. (Cephus) It certainly tightens things a bit as far as comparing WRs but I think Higgins is still probably safe. I know he has some electric film, but Hamler's size would remove him from my board. WRs that small don't last very long, and if he's always hurt he's not going to be nearly as effective.

[pbmax]

Trust the production; trust the tape.

So says Marty Schottenheimer, so say we all!

[Deputy Nutz]

Trust the production; trust the tape.

Jeff Okudah said that Cephus was the best receiver that he played against

[RashanGary]

The lamb college tape was fun to watch. But so was Reggie Bush.

NFL defensive backs are bigger than lamb, faster and the final straw will be if he runs only decent in the agility drills because NFL DBs might be more agile than he is too. Meaning he'd have no redeaming physical trait to avoid getting smoked. Even if he did get away with it in college.

I'm gonna wait till the agility drills, but boy, you hate to spend a top 20 pick on a 198 pound receiver with just decent speed. He's a safe bet to be good, but so are Reagor and Jefferson and about 5 others.

High picks, you want big guys or rare athletes who can ball. Lamb can ball. So hes a round 1 guy, but I think you can do better near the top.

[RashanGary]

Jeff Okudah said that Cephus was the best receiver that he played against

That's the kind of talk people had for Bolden all those years ago. Said he was the best football player they've played against..... You heard a lot of that. Cephus might look good in the slot, if he's a heady, smart, tough dude who can create separation in tight spaces.... Ala hines Ward or Bolden. Kind of a throw back. But he better be football savvy

[RashanGary]

And i only bring up lamb because id love for him to slip to us. I think he'd be great in the slot, especially with AR cuz AR might be the best QB in the league at not getting his guys killed and Lamb is gonna need that. He's slight and average speed. He's not gonna want to be getting lined up for kill shots.

The new NFL helps a guy like lamb too, so maybe that slight frame won't hurt as bad as Im used to seeing it hurt guys

[RashanGary]

If Cephus is savvy and the blocker guys say, hes sort of a slot compliment to a team that likes to run the ball too.

[Deputy Nutz]

Cephus had a much better 20 yard shuttle then Jeudy and several other receivers that had faster times. Cephus has all the right traits just not a good 40 time.