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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Not if the plays aren't there. If they have coverage and the QB doesn't force the ball, how is he going to make plays in the passing game. I think he did make plays in the running game. The one pass he had a shot at picking off, Barnett was also there and got the pick.
    Well, its not just interceptions, its knocking passes down, its jaring the ball out on the tackle for an incompletion, covering the guy so linemen can get a sack. Allowing the catch to be made, and then making the tackle is not that big of a trick.

    Again, I don't think he played poorly, but I want more from him because of his athletic ability.

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    • #17
      Yeah, they allowed Butler to blitz and free-lance a little more. Collins doesn't blitz much, so that's one aspect of big plays he's not likely to get. He can make interceptions, but there has to be opportunities. Until then, he has to continue making the plays in the run game. I don't think a safety not making big plays is a bad thing--if he's making the tackles he needs to make and he's not giving up completions.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Patler
        Well, its not just interceptions, its knocking passes down, its jaring the ball out on the tackle for an incompletion, covering the guy so linemen can get a sack. Allowing the catch to be made, and then making the tackle is not that big of a trick.
        My point is: what catches did he allow to be made? I don't remember one. Maybe there was one... at the most. What else he supposed to do--if he has coverage and the QB isn't forcing the ball in his zone?
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          What else he supposed to do--if he has coverage and the QB isn't forcing the ball in his zone?
          I don't know, maybe blitz and cover deep at the same time!
          I want a defensive playmaker!!!!

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          • #20
            I was hoping for a little more too. He was a violent, sure tackler but not much else. I'm hoping he gets a chance to make a big hit or two soon.

            As the communication gets better in the secondary, I think things will come to him more. One big play every other game would be damn fine for me.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              None of the D really played awful. I mean Manuel gave up the big play and Popininga had a hard time covering the TE's. I think Mohammad had a good day, but he was the only WR to catch more than 1 pass all day.

              I think this D will get better every game.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GoPack06
                None of the D really played awful. I mean Manuel gave up the big play and Popininga had a hard time covering the TE's. I think Mohammad had a good day, but he was the only WR to catch more than 1 pass all day.

                I think this D will get better every game.
                Nice point!!

                Other than the big play and Poppinga, things looked decent.

                Poppinga needs to have a special package that he does well, but having him in on eveyr play is just too much.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #23
                  hard to make impact plays when everyone else in the secondary is fucking dun ya think?

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