Official NFL Draft Day 1 Thread

[pbmax]

Only reason for Packers to go up this high (tex’s Rumor) would have been to get the DT Brown. He’s still there

[pbmax]

I am pro spoilers Ras.

[Joemailman]

Giants on the clock. Simmons or Wills.

[pbmax]

Giants on the clock. Simmons or Wills.

Maybe Simmons

[Joemailman]

Do we want to avoid spoilers here tonight?

I think that's preferable.But that's just me.

If you're going to be pro spoiler, what's your source?

[Rastak]

Ha! A tweet......from Tommy Kramer.....

Tommy Kramer
@Kramer9Tommy
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18m
1977 sitting in my dorm room. Packers called me and said they were taking me with the 28th pick in the 1st round. Bud Grant picked me at number 27. Grinning face

[pbmax]

OK, what skywalk at what mall are they shooting those outdoor scenes at?

[pbmax]

Ras what Twitter account is spoiling?

[Rastak]

The Giants are taking Georgia OT Andrew Thomas with the No. 4 pick, per source.

[Rastak]

Ras what Twitter account is spoiling?

I'm just looking at my feed in general. Some dude named Dan Duggan. In this case at least.

[Joemailman]

ANDREW THOMAS
OT, Georgia

CONF SEC - East JERSEY #71 CLASS Junior HT 6'5" DOB -- WT 320 lbs
ANALYST'S REPORTS
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Footwork: Quality work on 45-degree and vertical sets in general, though if he loses the first step, he doesn't have the necessary foot speed to gain depth and recover, so he has to flip his hips and carry rushers beyond the quarterback's set points. Quiet feet with good post foot maintenance when someone tries to come inside him and can settle his feet into his anchor immediately against power, with good ankle flexibility to fight pressure with pressure.

Pass Protection Technique: Long, strong, and stout. Extremely difficult to go through him because of his mass and lower-body power with a quality base and hip sink for a player of his size, and extremely difficult to go around because of his length and upper-body power. Denies inside counter moves with framing on 45-degree and vertical sets and is willing to let rushers get to his outside hip, then open the door and push them beyond the peak of pocket, which will not be as successful in the NFL against bendy rushers.

Run Blocking Technique: Like a runaway train with Deontay Wilder's reach. Shocking power at the point of contact to immediately uproot opponents. Regularly wrenches defensive tackles and ends out of gaps and road-paves on power concepts when he's offered an angle to crash a double team or climb/pull on power concepts. Able to get his hips and shoulders below his target and explode upwards to break their anchor, but ability to tag with length and upper-body power on the second level without having his hips coiled/uncoiled is truly special.

Quickness: Not the quickest dude on the block, but sufficient for a player as devastating as he is in his range of influence. Keeps a balanced base and stays married to the ground, which maximizes his recovery quickness and gives him a good range of influence. Will fail to connect with jitterbug second-level defenders in the running game, but is too big to get around and still impact the play anyway.

Flexibility: Has quality bend through his knees and hips to get below his opponent's pads and win the leverage game, which, when you consider his power, makes him pretty devastating. Has some waist-bending tendencies when he panics but shows a quality ability to remain balanced across all his sets, and further coaching on his responses to various rushers should eliminate this tendency.

Balance: Great balance in deeper sets and is always patient and ready, waiting for the rusher to declare so he can latch and drive. Ability to re-anchor against power and releverage his hands back underneath contact to fight pressure with pressure is tremendous. Will waist-bend at times as a panic response to rushers who get on top of him quick.

Upper Body Strength: Hog molly! He's got cannonballs for hands and when he lands his punch from a balanced base he can literally stonewall rushers immediately on their track. Grip rarely gets broken and he can ragdoll NFL-caliber opponents with tremendous lockout of his elbows and wrists. Shocking upper body control in tight areas makes him impervious to the bull rush.

Lower Body Power: He's a daggum fire hydrant. Ability to sit on power rushes and just gobble up high-momentum and powerful rushers is elite for college, and when he gets latched onto speed rushes or inside counters, even from a recovery position, he's quickly able to get his hips activated and start driving opponents out of the play. Can fire into space out of his stance and get on top of angles with his epxlosiveness.

Violence: Nasty. Wants to finish and looks for work and opportunities to hit when he's free. Will pick you up and put you down if you come passively to him and projects well to playing in a system that will let him jump set so he can land mitts early and throw people around.



Round Grade: Early 1

Best Trait: Lower Body Power

Worst Trait: Flexibility

Player Comparison: Cam Robinson



Summary: Andrew Thomas is an elite college tackle who projects as much the same in the NFL level, as long as he's used appropriately. Thomas is far from a dancing bear and shouldn't be asked to take outside zone paths as a primary responsibility, but as a people-mover in the running game, he has as devastating and exciting a profile as recent memory affords. Thomas is a quality pass protector who handles speed rushers with aplomb and control, and further experience and coaching in the league will help him maximize his length and recruit more aggressive sets to protect him from surrendering a two-way go on an island. For teams that let him play ugly, nasty, and downhill, Thomas is a Year 1 starter with a Pro Bowl ceiling.

[Joemailman]

Mild surprise. Couple OT's most had rated higher than him.

[Joemailman]

Miami up. Tua?

[Rastak]

Miami up. Tua?

Likely I guess.

[Rastak]

It's Tua


per Albert Breer....