Official NFL Draft Day 1 Thread

[run pMc]

Based on Rodgers recent history and the history of 36 year old QBs, Packers will be very fortunate if they don’t need Love to play significant minutes this year.

You may be right there. Also, I agree they didn't pick Love to sit for 4 years. They must think Rodgers will be traded or a shell of himself before his contract is up.
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[Bretsky]

Based on Rodgers recent history and the history of 36 year old QBs, Packers will be very fortunate if they don’t need Love to play significant minutes this year.

If you don't believe we're leaping by the San Francisco's and Minnesota's and the Saints of the world we should be finding him some playing time anyways

[mraynrand]

If you don't believe we're leaping by the San Francisco's and Minnesota's and the Saints of the world we should be finding him some playing time anyways

I see no reason to think Packers aren’t better than the Viking or Saints rn.

[GB-Brandon]

If he’s really this big of a pussy, then maybe it’s time to move on sooner than later. Yes it likely will get ugly at some point. QBs typically don’t go out on a high note.

We basically just signed up for a total rebuild but whatever. 1 game from the Super Bowl with a few pieces missing to a total rebuild with one stupid pick on some pot head that threw 17 interceptions(29 in three years) at Utah State.

Rodgers has a total of 32 total going all the way back to 2014 IN THE NFL!!! That’s 6 NFL seasons.

So much fun!!!

[red]

Over the cap says we'd save $5M by cutting him after 2021, so we can get out from under his contract at that time.

i think you're reading that wrong. those numbers are for the 2021 season

so we would save 5 million but cutting or trading him after next year (2020), but still take a 31.5 million dollar cap hit

after the 2021 season, we can cut or trade him for a 17.2 million dollar cap hit, or 22 million in savings

you're just reading the years wrong, off by 1 year

2021 will probably be a-rods last season in green bay

[HarveyWallbangers]

To be honest, I don't like the pick. Love was a first round talent though. He's a better and different prospect than Kizer. My comparison for Love is Drew Lock--who had a promising rookie year with the Broncos. I thought the Packers could wait another year to draft the heir apparent, but it eventually had to happen. Maybe they thought this guy had too much upside to pass on. We can sit here in whine, but it's a waste of time. We won't know if this was the right move for a few years. There are still plenty of WRs, ILBs, and DL in this draft. There are some promising developmental OTs.

Maybe Higgins, Shenault, Pittman, Claypool, Edwards, or Van Jefferson will fall to us tomorrow. I have about about 10 intriguing DL still available (not many DL went in round 1). I think this is a pretty deep draft at ILB too. There are even some developmental OTs. We'll see what happens.

[Smidgeon]

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but here's my speculation:

The Packers had a short list of players they would take at 30. With Reagor and Ayuik and Murray off the board and possibly Ruiz too (planning on not being able to pay all their FAs next year), Love might have been their last player in that tier. So they could trade up and get him or hope to trade back and get what they consider a lesser talent, or be stuck reaching for someone.

If they're right, it's a great move. If they're not, it's no different than reaching for a WR who doesn't pan out at the next level.

[mraynrand]

We basically just signed up for a total rebuild but whatever. 1 game from the Super Bowl with a few pieces missing to a total rebuild with one stupid pick on some pot head that threw 17 interceptions(29 in three years) at Utah State.

So much fun!!!

Total rebuild? Why would you think that? It’s not like they don’t have more picks. And how many critical pieces did you think they would fill with the 30th pick anyway?

I’d say that based on recent history, backup QB and future starting QB are pretty critical positions.

[call_me_ishmael]

Aaron and Brett.

https://twitter.com/datboywolf/status/1253532133102096384

[Joemailman]

i think you're reading that wrong. those numbers are for the 2021 season

so we would save 5 million but cutting or trading him after next year (2020), but still take a 31.5 million dollar cap hit

after the 2021 season, we can cut or trade him for a 17.2 million dollar cap hit, or 22 million in savings

you're just reading the years wrong, off by 1 year

2021 will probably be a-rods last season in green bay

Right. And Love will have 3 years left on his contract assuming Packers pick up his option. What will probably bother Rodgers the most is that he likely won't finish his career in Green Bay unless he wants to retire after 2021.

[call_me_ishmael]

i think you're reading that wrong. those numbers are for the 2021 season

so we would save 5 million but cutting or trading him after next year (2020), but still take a 31.5 million dollar cap hit

after the 2021 season, we can cut or trade him for a 17.2 million dollar cap hit, or 22 million in savings

you're just reading the years wrong, off by 1 year

2021 will probably be a-rods last season in green bay

You two are litreally saying the same thing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If you don't believe we're leaping by the San Francisco's and Minnesota's and the Saints of the world we should be finding him some playing time anyways

Leaping by the Vikings? We went further than last year, and they've lost Diggs, Joseph, probably Griffen, and much of their secondary (okay, their CBs were terrible last year). Their draft is plugging holes from their offseason losses.

Lynch is a kick ass GM though. SF is trouble. Getting Kinlaw and Aiyuk is sick.

[QBME]

I dunno, my draft/player expertise is based solely upon the name.
Love in the NFL?
Well, if anywhere it’s possible, it’s in Green Bay.

[Bretsky]

CBS #19 overall prospect
ESPN #20 overall prospect
NFL Draft Scout - projected to go middle of 1st round

Truth be told, a long time ag o I piimped Jordan love as having a lot of talent at the QB position; I never imagined GB would pick him (and gotta admit NFW would I gift a 4th round draft pick to move up for him) but he's very skilled

Watch his games as a Junior; he was a very good QB . Three OC's in three years. And nearly all of the offensive talent graduated after his Junior Season. Fast forward to his senior year. Talent the same

But his decision making sucked and it didn't appear the coaches were able to reel in some of his Favre like (bad decisions/forcing balls in that he shouldn't throw) tendencies.

It would not surprise me if he turns out to to a good to top half of the NFL type QB. The talent is there IMO. And maybe this turns out to be a good pick. I like the pick a hell of a lot more than last year's 12.

But I believed Rodgers was going to play for Green Bay and start for four more years. I also believed it was a no brainer to try to win now and maybe we can sneak out one more Super Bowl. There were some elite type players there when we were drafting and then we gave up a 4th and could you taken somebody who could have significantly improved our chances to win a Super Bowl in the next few years.

So to me kind of sacrificed the present for the future. It's worked, and failed before for many franchises.

I just had my hopes up for this year; but I'll just adjust my expectations. Maybe today will someday be a great decision for the Packers. But right now it seems like several teams got a lot better and we did not.

I'll stress this in today's NFL; it's important you develop your QB's fast and get them playing. If they gave up a valuable draft pick to move up and get him, he can't sit 3-4 years.

Good chance AROD will not be retiring a Packer. IMO this pick was just two years early

[HarveyWallbangers]

You two are litreally saying the same thing.

I know he's in a sour mood, so I didn't want to point that out.