What’s your early take on Jordan Love?

[ThunderDan]

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood

Gutekunst says not fair to Jordan Love right now to say the new first-round pick will be Aaron Rodgers' eventual replacement as #Packers starting QB. "We've got the best quarterback in the National Football League, and we plan to have him for awhile, competing for championships."

If Gute really said this, at least the inferred first part before the actual quote, he needs to be gone. We trade up for a player and use up our first round pick on someone who isn’t going to be ARods replacement?

Your first round pick is your teams best chance to infuse your team with new talent each year. It doesn’t turn out that way most years but there are the most players to pick from to help your team. Not only did we use the 1st but we gave up our 4th also to get Love. That is a lot of draft capital to expend on a guy it isn’t fair to assume with be Rodgers replacement at some point down the road.

[mraynrand]

If Gute really said this, at least the inferred first part before the actual quote, he needs to be gone. We trade up for a player and use up our first round pick on someone who isn’t going to be ARods replacement?

Isn't it obvious? He's trying to avoid a QB controversy scenario, avoid pissing off Rodgers (good luck). Set it up as the kid will learn at the master's feet for a few years, nothing set in stone, etc., etc. Best you can do when you bring in a successor when the current guy is not gonna leave (except feet first) for at least two years.

[ThunderDan]

Isn't it obvious? He's trying to avoid a QB controversy scenario, avoid pissing off Rodgers (good luck). Set it up as the kid will learn at the master's feet for a few years, nothing set in stone, etc., etc. Best you can do when you bring in a successor when the current guy is not gonna leave (except feet first) for at least two years.

That is not what you say. You say something like, “Love has so much talent we couldn’t pass on him at that spot. He gets to spend the next few years learning from the greatest QB in the history of the league. We love his potential to continue the superb QB play GB has been fortunate to have into the future.”

[mraynrand]

That is not what you say. You say something like, “Love has so much talent we couldn’t pass on him at that spot. He gets to spend the next few years learning from the greatest QB in the history of the league. We love his potential to continue the superb QB play GB has been fortunate to have into the future.”

That's what I might say, if I didn't have a pissy QB like Rodgers.

[Bretsky]

FOR THE RECORD, and I imagine people bumping these threads one way or the other years from now, I have always felt Jordan Love had first round talent, and he was the wild card in this draft. He's my 4th rated QB and belonged in the 25-35 range.

But it was two years early and I'm still shocked that Gutebag donated a 4th round pick to move up 4 spots in front of teams that were not drafting Jordan Love.

[HarveyWallbangers]

FOR THE RECORD, and I imagine people bumping these threads one way or the other years from now, I have always felt Jordan Love had first round talent, and he was the wild card in this draft. He's my 4th rated QB and belonged in the 25-35 range.

But it was two years early and I'm still shocked that Gutebag donated a 4th round pick to move up 4 spots in front of teams that were not drafting Jordan Love.

Way to hedge your bet. Now you can claim you were right no matter what happens.

[Bretsky]

Way to hedge your bet. Now you can claim you were right no matter what happens.

HA; I enjoy being wrong just as much. Wonder where Frankie Neal and Odell Thurman are these days ??

I've been saying I liked the player for months. I don't hedge bets though. I think I've noted in here many times NO WAY to do donate my 4th round pick to move up for a guy who is gettting picked about where he should.

But I'm not blasting the player; I just don't agree with the decision at all

And I continue to like Gutebag in free agency but dislike his drafts

[gbgary]

He is the tenth highest paid QB in 2020 in salary cap terms. You have convinced yourself of a cap reality that doesn't exist.

When he gets more expensive in the out years, other deals will surpass him and he still won't be top 5. And the cap will go WAY up so his percentage will drop.

You really just want to blame him for everything but the QB doesn't conduct the draft Gary. And they had WAY too many misses this decade on defense. If they had two other guys nearly as skilled as he was, this conversation wouldn't be happening.

Its not the QBs fault the team forgot how to draft offense while it couldn't draft defense (relatively speaking, still a Top 8 team in the League).

i'm talking about his % of the team cap. if it's over 10% it's a problem. history has shown that. they had to do a $ trick to his contract or they wouldn't have had any cap space this season. next year his hit is $36.3m. they're not going to be able to extend all their key guys or get impact guys in free agency. the extension was a mistake in it's timing and rate. add that to rodgers' down-trending and politics. their window is closed. they're spitting into the wind. the sooner they can get from under his contract the better.
i didn't say anything about their drafting. the end of thompson's tenure was very bad. they might be a top 16 team. somewhere between 16 and 7. that's not a SB team.

[The Shadow]

Re-signing Kizer would have accomplished the same thing.

[pbmax]

Sure, what ever gets drunk middle aged white women to get out of their seats to dance.

I have only one rule as an admin, no Bon Joni songs on the Packers board.

Violations will result in a severe admonishment.

[wootah]

2) He needs some development time.

[GB-Brandon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMO5Ko_77Hk&feature=share

That’s more like it!!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Re-signing Kizer would have accomplished the same thing.

Exactly.

“Green Bay Browns”

[MadtownPacker]

Brandon is the team supposed to do what they can for Rodgers to win another SB or what they can for the Packers to continue to be successful as a franchise? Serious question.

[GB-Brandon]

Brandon is the team supposed to do what they can for Rodgers to win another SB or what they can for the Packers to continue to be successful as a franchise? Serious question.

I believe it’s an obvious answer. The team was one win from the Super Bowl last year. Yes, they overachieved but still had some key pieces in place. Further, I don’t believe Aaron Rodgers is washed up. You can make the same excuses for Rodgers that you can make for JL. First year scheme, lack of weapons, OL issues at times but Rodgers still had a decent season. He still made some huge throws under pressure that won us games. It’s not like he was throwing picks all over the place. The main problem is guys couldn’t win one on one and get open.

With all that said i believe Gute needed to have a very very strong offseason to get us over the hump. He needed to get Rodgers help and shore up the middle of the defense and patch a hole on the OL. He did none of this and actually the opposite which looks like they have totally switched gears and trying to set it up to try to win with a QB on a rookie deal. I believe it will be a gigantic disaster and lead to years of mediocrity. I don’t believe JL is the chosen one to lead us to the promise land. I could be wrong and if I am I would be shockingly surprised.

IMO, you could put Rodgers right now with Belichick and win Super Bowls right now. The reality is the Packer have been unwilling to do what’s necessary to accomplish this end result so just let Rodgers go because you don’t Fucken know how to use him.

I say WIN SUPER BOWLS NOW!’ Like I say I thought it was called “Titletown” for a reason.

You wanna fiddle fuck around with mediocrity then just keep on truckin with it.