What’s your early take on Jordan Love?

[Rastak]

Not what I meant, but funny!

Just messing with you. In know what you meant. The pundits are reaming you guys though. PFF gave the Vikings an A and the Packers a D....which I suppose is the kiss of death for my favorite team.

[George Cumby]

Everything I see says we had one of if not the worst draft in the league.....I like that!

I'm with you.

Remember TT's prime years when we'd all be asking who these MFers were? Remember the shit grades he's get?

Next thing you know were cooking up the Barney Fuckdoggle award because the roster was so deep. I remind everyone, that "Barney Fuckdoggle" was a phrased coined by a Bears Fan who was lamenting the quality and depth of our roster.

The question remains, is Gutey channeling Prime Ted or Poor Ted?

[Zool]

Tedious? Every main sports news talk show is talking about this. So were supposed to act like what’s there isn’t really there?

He’s referring to you.

[Zool]

Best case scenario is ESB steps up, Gary and Keke develop into starters, and Burks finally figures out how to play football.

If those things happen, we can maybe contend next year. If not?? We're looking at 2024 at the earliest.

Which Smith gets replaced by Gary?

Edit, Burks will probably not learn how to play football. He always looks lost.

[wist43]

Which Smith gets replaced by Gary?

Edit, Burks will probably not learn how to play football. He always looks lost.

Both Smiths are under contract for the next 2 years, so I expect we can be multiple with all 3 on the field together 75% of the time.

In the big picture it doesn't matter though b/c we aren't going to contend for a while, so Gary is the only one of those 3 that matters in the long run. Both Smith brothers and Amos will be gone after the 2022 season, so the only guys on defense that matter are Gary, Keke, Burks, Savage, and Alexander. Everyone else will be churned out by then.

But I dont think Burks can play at all, so the other 4 will be the core guys we need to try and build around.

[wist43]

I'm with you.

Remember TT's prime years when we'd all be asking who these MFers were? Remember the shit grades he's get?

Next thing you know were cooking up the Barney Fuckdoggle award because the roster was so deep. I remind everyone, that "Barney Fuckdoggle" was a phrased coined by a Bears Fan who was lamenting the quality and depth of our roster.

The question remains, is Gutey channeling Prime Ted or Poor Ted?

Channeling any part of Ted and his philosophy is a bad thing.

Ted's philosophy was seriously flawed, and that is reflected in the fact that, despite having a HOF QB under center for 13 years, he only won one SB.

In the mean time, how many SB's was Brady winning??

And for the record, I think Rodgers is better than Brady all day long.

Ted's philosophy builds 9-7/10-6 teams... if strictly adhered to - like this year by Gute?? The team will remain stuck there b/c of philosophical stubbornness.

This draft is a sad reminder of just how flawed Ted's philosophy is. I was hoping Gute was not a doctrinaire disciple, but apparently he is.

[GB-Brandon]

He’s referring to you.

Well, unfortunately I believe that the Packers punting(who i believe is the most talented QB of all time) Aaron Rodgers to be big news.

[Zool]

Well, unfortunately I believe that the Packers punting(who i believe is the most talented QB of all time) Aaron Rodgers to be big news.

We know. You’ve said it in every thread multiple times per page.

[Vincenzo]

Mel Kiper named the Packers’ selection of Jordan Love and their refusal to take a wide receiver as his most “head scratching” pick of the 2020 draft.

“I got one big one,” Kiper said when asked to name his ‘head scratching’ pick. “I understand Aaron Rodgers, you figure let’s get the heir apparent in Jordan Love, but then not to take a wide receiver…in a historically deep wide receiver class, pretty amazing.”

[Teamcheez1]

Rodgers is now older than Favre when he was originally drafted to replace Favre. I honestly think Rodgers only has a couple of good years left. 3 or 4 years was more of a pipe dream. Love needs a couple of years to get ready.

[GB-Brandon]

Mel Kiper named the Packers’ selection of Jordan Love and their refusal to take a wide receiver as his most “head scratching” pick of the 2020 draft.

“I got one big one,” Kiper said when asked to name his ‘head scratching’ pick. “I understand Aaron Rodgers, you figure let’s get the heir apparent in Jordan Love, but then not to take a wide receiver…in a historically deep wide receiver class, pretty amazing.”

This is why I don’t expect him back. Gute probably could of kept it together if he drafts mims or maybe a couple of other guys later but too just ignore the entire position group is like pouring salt in the wound too AR12.

[GB-Brandon]

Rodgers is now older than Favre when he was originally drafted to replace Favre. I honestly think Rodgers only has a couple of good years left. 3 or 4 years was more of a pipe dream. Love needs a couple of years to get ready.

That’s all well and good but what makes you think Rodgers wants to just ho hum around on a rebuilding team that isn’t even really a contender for two years as they groom Jordan Love?

Rodgers strikes me as being just too much of a competitor.

[Teamcheez1]

That’s all well and good but what makes you think Rodgers wants to just ho hum around on a rebuilding team that isn’t even really a contender for two years as they groom Jordan Love?

Rodgers strikes me as being just too much of a competitor.

You may be right, but Rodgers contract is cost prohibitive for a trade for at least a couple of years unless we get a boatload of draft picks in return or he is willing to restructure prior to the trade. Tampa Bay should be looking for another aging superstar by that time.

[Spaulding]

Whose to say this doesn't light a fire under him. Correct me if I'm wrong but his last two years haven't been traditional "Rodgersesque" have they? Either due to injuries, holding the ball too long, unwillingness to take a chances, he hasn't been the same player he was for the first ten years. He's still a top ten QB but many now don't believe he's elite and if that holds true, how soon does his true drop off commence?

Gute may have had Love as a top ten pick and possibly the 2nd highest rated QB in this years draft (right or wrong). Seeing him available late in the first round meant he thought it was a value and BPA pick. Time will tell if this was the correct move or not. If Rodgers play drops off this year and continues into the following season where's just then an average starter then this pick might look like gold. Or if Rodgers goes down with another injury, having a legitimate backup to fill in a few games might save a season.

Three years will likely tell us the value of this draft. For every pick there's a counter argument on what it potentially does for the roster. For the crying on need for WR's, maybe they've seen enough in practice from flashes from ESB and MVS to think they are close enough to getting it versus a new highly drafted rookie receiver.

Wasn't it only a few years ago that little to nothing of rookie receivers was expected and that it wasn't until year 2 or 3 that they might start to show that they were capable? If so that doesn't do Rodgers any good anyways at as he moves towards 40.

Throw back a few (or full case if you need to fully sedate) and see where this leads. I don't think anybody saw a 13-3 season last year and it was awesome ride. Lack of injuries, scheduling benefits and peaking at the right time gives most teams a chance that are otherwise .500 (see Packers of 2011) and enjoy the ride.

[Bretsky]

I would agree the last two years of play has been less than Rodgersesque. But part of that is when the following happens.

Rodgers back to pass.......nobody open
Rodgers steps up in the pocket...nobody still open
Rodgers rolls out...tick tick ....nobody still open

We haven't had the WR talent back there to be consistent, IMO