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  • Originally posted by red View Post
    i don't see how we've done anything but gotten worse this offseason, and the pick last night did not help this team get any better

    meanwhile teams like the 49ers and chiefs have gotten even scarier

    i think that with the lack of weapons that we desperately needed in free agency, and by drafting our (hopefully) future QB, gute has basically written off the last 2 or 3 years of the rodgers era. add in that i don't think this team was anywhere near as good as their 13-3 record last year, and i don't see how we're a real contender anymore
    Maybe they can improve at backup QB by resigning Kizer.

    I seem to remember people bitching and moaning about the deplorable state of the back up QB position when Rodgers was lost for the year not long ago. So they address it and now THATS the worst pick ever.

    OK guys. You’ve convinced me.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      Maybe they can improve at backup QB by resigning Kizer.

      I seem to remember people bitching and moaning about the deplorable state of the back up QB position when Rodgers was lost for the year not long ago. So they address it and now THATS the worst pick ever.

      OK guys. You’ve convinced me.
      they didn't draft a backup QB, they drafted a future starter

      if rodgers goes down this year, i don't think love is anywhere close to being ready to step in. it might be one of those years where we have to keep 3 QBs, they starter, the future starter, and a guy that can actually run a pro system if the starter goes down

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      • There's two separate things here: whether it is likely or not that Love will be good or great over time, and whether it was a good idea to draft a QB/him in the first round this year.

        Regarding the second thing, I was as much against that as anybody here. I have always said the disrespect I see for Aaron Rodgers is idiotic. Now, it seems like the team/Gutekunst is buying into that crap too. I expect to see Rodgers playing star quality football for the Packers for at least 4 more years, and maybe a good deal longer. And this stupid shit about him tanking the team? That's worse than idiotic.

        As for Jordan Love, all of the good things about him pertain to natural ability. All of the bad things ought to be coachable. Throwing a lot of interceptions obviously is the diametric opposite of what makes Aaron Rodgers the GOAT. If Love has a lick of sense, he can and maybe will learn and become a whole lot like Aaron Rodgers.

        What I said last night and what I say today is, what's done is done, whether any of us like it or not (and I don't recall anybody posting that they like it). It ain't the end of the world. The Packers without any improvement would still be very near the top, and there's good reason to hope that there will be improvement based on tonight's and maybe tomorrow's picks. So R-E-L-A-X.
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        • Originally posted by red View Post
          oh and btw, i've been listening to the radio all day. the national guys are just destroying the pick
          Because it may have been one of the most destructive moves of all time. People can say “what’s done is done” but they can’t unwind this thing. This has the potential to create such compounding damage. My feeling is this will be talked about for years to come as we struggle to maintain any sort of relevance.

          Gute could not of done anything more destructive at this point and time. It took INSANITY to a whole new level.

          I imagine the waiting list to get tickets to Lambeau will shrink of epic proportions. Very sad day in such a storied franchise.

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          • It’s not fair to Jordan Love. He didn’t ask for this but he will not be welcomed by many. The guy is gonna be watched and criticized more then anyone ever. The pressure is gonna kill a guy that couldn’t even hold up to the pressure at Utah State.

            Wrong time, Wrong Pick, Wrong guy.

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            • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
              Do you really believe that? I don't think they were that close last year. Record wise they were good but they got smoked off the field by the good teams. And they passed up an opportunity for immediate help here. I don't have a problem with it, but it is a little Charlie Kirk thinking face.
              Got smoked by exactly one team, which ended up being like 10 minutes from a championship.

              By this logic, we should have given up halfway through '96 when we lost to seven field goals against Dallas.

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              • One big difference between the Favre-Rodgers move, and the Rodgers to love idea

                The retirement idea was already hanging over Favre a head way back in 2002 or 2003 after Bert mentioned it, and never really put it to bed. Almost every offseason between 2002 and 2008 we were wondering if he would return. So taking a possible replacement made more sense

                Rodgers hasn’t brought up retirement other then to say he wanted to play till he’s 40

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                • It’s going to be interesting. One of the beat guys was saying They wanted their own “guy”. This definitely signsls the end of the Rodgers era in maybe 2 or 3 years. I have a hard time envisioning then keeping him in year 4 unless Love looks like shit. We’ll have a good idea by then

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                  • Originally posted by red View Post
                    One big difference between the Favre-Rodgers move, and the Rodgers to love idea

                    The retirement idea was already hanging over Favre a head way back in 2002 or 2003 after Bert mentioned it, and never really put it to bed. Almost every offseason between 2002 and 2008 we were wondering if he would return. So taking a possible replacement made more sense

                    Rodgers hasn’t brought up retirement other then to say he wanted to play till he’s 40
                    From what I saw last season, either way Rodgers wasn't playing out this contract or until he is 40.

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                    • Originally posted by red View Post
                      One big difference between the Favre-Rodgers move, and the Rodgers to love idea

                      The retirement idea was already hanging over Favre a head way back in 2002 or 2003 after Bert mentioned it, and never really put it to bed. Almost every offseason between 2002 and 2008 we were wondering if he would return. So taking a possible replacement made more sense
                      If people wanna believe some Fairy Tale that Gute found this hidden gem at Utah State(that is coming off a horrible season) with glaring defects and he is gonna sit on the bench for 3 years and then all the sudden be some HOF QB then i guess let them.

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                      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        If people wanna believe some Fairy Tale that Gute found this hidden gem at Utah State(that is coming off a horrible season) with glaring defects and he is gonna sit on the bench for 3 years and then all the sudden be some HOF QB then i guess let them.
                        2 years. Plenty of traits based QBs from small schools and without insane production have done well recently. Josh Allen and Carson Wentz come to mind. We’ll see. It’s far from guaranteed. If they are right, we’re set up for 10 more years. If they are wrong, it’s a wasted draft pick. 50/50 that another guy drafted instead would be a difference maker.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • Originally posted by red View Post
                          oh and btw, i've been listening to the radio all day. the national guys are just destroying the pick


                          I listened to a load of them as well; nobody would compare this move to AROD.

                          Gutebag must have fallen in love with Love. He got drafted where he should have...between 25 and 35.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            With that lawless crowd
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                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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                            • i've no problem with the pick. it's not like they're a serious SB contender anyway. last year was a fluke. an entertaining fluke but a fluke nonetheless. they got lucky. Gute sees the reality of the situation and knows they're between a rock and a hard place. the cap is just making it even tighter. they need 6 good starters...CB, ILB, WR, OL, DT, and TE. they need to extend 69, Clark, Aaron Jones, and maybe even King. all that isn't happening in the couple of years Rodgers still has left as a "good" QB. he's down trending and costing them a fortune. he also doesn't like the system. this was partially a power move by Gute. he wants to make this HIS and MLF's team. MLF needs to be the man but Rodgers supplants him. he can't do anything with Rodgers. he'll actually get to coach Love and actually get to run HIS system. i think this may be Rodgers last season in GB. if not 2020, 2021 for sure. much depends on Love's progress and Rodgers performance and health.

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                              • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                Because it may have been one of the most destructive moves of all time. People can say “what’s done is done” but they can’t unwind this thing. This has the potential to create such compounding damage. My feeling is this will be talked about for years to come as we struggle to maintain any sort of relevance.

                                Gute could not of done anything more destructive at this point and time. It took INSANITY to a whole new level.

                                I imagine the waiting list to get tickets to Lambeau will shrink of epic proportions. Very sad day in such a storied franchise.
                                I imagine you've lost your mind. Or you know nothing about Packer fans.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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