Interesting Rumor off PackerChatters

[Terry]

People need to realize that this subject will come up again and again and Sherman's name will be referenced over and over as the season goes on because it was a mistake to change coaching staffs. Thompson made that call and that's at the root of this rumor and all future rumors on this topic.

Now, stick with me before you get all riled up...I'll explain what I'm saying.

Firing Sherman to hire McCarthy was a mistake. Sherman was a veteran coach who was a proven winner as a coach. His teams played hard and rarely to never quit. He should've been retained UNLESS we could've improved on him for this year. If we could've improved at Head Coach then by all means, it was time for Sherman to go. BUT....we didn't improve! That's the key here. McCarthy and his staff over Sherman and his staff is NOT an improvement this year. Since he didn't improve at the top, why make the change then?

Long term, McCarthy may be the better choice but Favre wont be here long-term so it's a sin to put the final year(s) of Favre's career into the hands of a rookie coach with rookie coordinators and inexperienced coaches. That's what this rumor is about.

The rumblings are there for those that were in Sherman's corner and they are watching a rookie head coach and 1st time coordinators cut their teeth and make mistakes at a time when the organization doesn't have the talent and depth to overcome such inexperience. What was this teams best chance of succeeding this year? Was it to change systems and coaches and lose all familiarity that every player had? Was that best? Losing Jim Bates at D-Coordinator, was that best for the team? Switching O-Line schemes....was that best for the team? Ask Chad Clifton. New offense for Favre to learn, was that best for the team? None of those changes are positive since we didn't replace the old staff with a better one. You've got green coaches and coordinators learning on the damn job at a time when the team's talent can't overcome their inexperience. At a time when the team needed to lean on the little things to have a chance at winning. Little things like familiarity, continuity, solid coaching.

A Bill Parcells type coach would've been worth changing for. He's established a track record for coming into situations and getting the best out of his teams immediately. McCarthy is no Bill Parcells right now and he's no Mike Sherman right now either. If the Packers keep losing and looking bad while doing it then you'll continue to hear these types of rumblings. Long term, Thompson may have made the right decision. McCarthy may turn out just fine but right now, while he's learning and people are watching Favre's last year or two..... people will think back to Sherman and wonder whether he shouldn't have been allowed to stay on for another year or two.

Sherman was a winning coach. He was also a disaster in the postseason. The game goes up a notch in postseason normally - maybe that line was Sherman's demarcation of competence. In 1960's championship game, the Packers were down 4 points and Jim Taylor was stopped on the Eagles' 9 yard line in the last play of the game. In the lockerroom afterward, Lombardi swore to his players that they would never lose another championship game - and they didn't. (Actually, they did lose one post season game, the game for third place, the game Lombardi called a game for losers.)

Firing Sherman has nothing to do with hiring McCarthy. One cannot see the future. Bill Parcells wasn't available.

If McCarthy turns out to be a better coach than Sherman, then great. If not, we'll have to try again. In either case, it's not a sin because of Brett Favre. A shame, maybe, but not a sin.

[swede]

Maybe the Polar Weasel TT is at work again in his most cleverly diabolical and machiavellian plan yet!

By hiring a bunch of loser coaches from loser programs (ala The Producers) TT has begun phase II of his strategy. (Phase I was to let Sherman lose with the team that Sherman himself put together without helping out with FA or retaining the guards) Mike McCarthy, former OC of the worst offense in football, gets TT another year of high draft picks. By firing M3 at the end of this year TT gets another 2 years of "patience." Phase III is to hire an awesome coaching staff to prepare the team for his real run at the Super Bowl at the end of "08.

I know I am asking to be put on everyone's ignore list (should such a feature become available) but I think that there might be something to Swede's Phase III.

Why else hire a coach to a three year contract? T2 is signed one year past that. I've never heard a good explanatio of McCarthy's contract.

If true, Phase III is pretty cold-blooded.

Thus the polar aspect of the weasel.

Look, to some extent I'm kidding with the conspiracy theory. But for some reason it sure is easy to construct conspiracy theories with the facts surrounding this organization.

Post-draft I was solidly behind TT. MM I have been less sure about but I have been generally supportive. Suddenly I am fearful that TT is like the character in the book Being There--assumed brilliant because he is quiet when he is actually blissfully ignorant and unprepared.

[Packnut]

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Maybe the Polar Weasel TT is at work again in his most cleverly diabolical and machiavellian plan yet!

By hiring a bunch of loser coaches from loser programs (ala The Producers) TT has begun phase II of his strategy. (Phase I was to let Sherman lose with the team that Sherman himself put together without helping out with FA or retaining the guards) Mike McCarthy, former OC of the worst offense in football, gets TT another year of high draft picks. By firing M3 at the end of this year TT gets another 2 years of "patience." Phase III is to hire an awesome coaching staff to prepare the team for his real run at the Super Bowl at the end of "08.

I know I am asking to be put on everyone's ignore list (should such a feature become available) but I think that there might be something to Swede's Phase III.

Why else hire a coach to a three year contract? T2 is signed one year past that. I've never heard a good explanatio of McCarthy's contract.

If true, Phase III is pretty cold-blooded.

Thus the polar aspect of the weasel.

Look, to some extent I'm kidding with the conspiracy theory. But for some reason it sure is easy to construct conspiracy theories with the facts surrounding this organization.

Post-draft I was solidly behind TT. MM I have been less sure about but I have been generally supportive. Suddenly I am fearful that TT is like the character in the book Being There--assumed brilliant because he is quiet when he is actually blissfully ignorant and unprepared.

It's gonna take some time and it will be very painfull, but after we are embarrassed week in and week out and as the losses pile up, most of the "optimists" will realize that TT has set this team back more than Sherman ever did. I expect several will wake up after this Sunday. I guess for some, rationalizing that the Bears are that good, (they are'nt), as an excuse for our poor play, will wake up when Reggie and the Saints walk into Lambeau and pull off the win........

[RashanGary]

Nah,

Many fans here are expecting a tough season. We'll give Thompson till the end of next year minimum to prove himself. You don't really know what you've done as a GM untill 4 or 5 years later. We see the mark Sherman left 4 or 5 years later. In another 2 or 3 years we'll see what Thompson did.

We should win 6 this year and 8 next year. That IMHO is realistic after getting 4 players in 4 full years of draft picks during Sherms tenure, Thompson has to make up ground.

[Brohm]

Sherman was not a veteran coach when he was hired. He learned on the job. He rarely called the plays in Seattle.