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That's why I watch football and don't look at those types of stats. That's just a useless QB rating scale. Period.Formerly known as JustinHarrell. -
Production isn't useless.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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The production equation isn’t QB Production = QB effectiveness. The QBs production is a long equation that includes OL, WR, TE and RB play as well as QB play. So absolutely, production is an awful measure. The score is in that equation too. It’s so much more than whatever stat you’re pulling. I watched both with my eyes. I have no doubt Rodgers is significantly better no matter what that equation says.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostFormerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Mahommes, Jackson, Wilson and Rodgers are the best QBs in the game right now. My stat? I watched almost every NFL football game and I don’t use stats.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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I'd say wins a good stat too. I don't believe you can boil it down to one number, but I will say the traditional QB Rating (not the ESPN) often tells a pretty good story of how a QB is performing. Trouble is, where a 95+ rating would be amazing 10 years ago it's pretty ho-hum now.
If you go by just last season, there were a number of QBs who played better than Rodgers. They may not be better players, however. Don't confuse the two.
Will be curious to see if the young WRs can pick it up. Lazard, EQ and MVS especially. The news of the secondary playing well makes me wonder if that's actually true, or if the WRs stink.Comment
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I have a pet peeve when people equate wins to qb quality. While they have a large influence compared to any other position they don't win games by themselves.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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I still think Rodgers is awesome. Top 5 or 6. I just think Brees is a bit better at this stage. The injuries have taken a toll on Rodgers. His deep ball was off last year and he doesn't seem as motivated in reading a D as he once was. It happens to a lot of great ones. Hopefully he had an offseason to reboot and comes back ready to play ball. Hopefully making the NFCC after 2 dismal seasons is a recharge.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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For the record I think Maholmes is in a league of his own atm, and then the cluster behind him of really good almost great is Wilson, Rodgers, Brees, Jackson.
Then there is a tier of older guys who are not quite what they were in Brady, Rivers. That tier is mixed with solid veterans like Ryan, Prescott, Watson, Wentz, Stafford.
I don't think you should be paying tier 2 like tier 1. Its a world of difference. Then there is the tier I would NEVER pay. Tannehill, Goff, Cousins.Carr, Garropolo.
I missed some names, but you get the picture.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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If Rodgers really did find something from watching old tapes and fixed it, then I forsee a big year for Davante, EQ, Lazard, and maybe MVS if he fixed his hands issue. Beagleton, and Kumerow depend on packages used/injuries."Aw, I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?" - Homer Simpson
"Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get." - Homer SimpsonComment
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agreedOriginally posted by theeaterofshades View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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I have all but give up on MVS after his ho hum second season. He’s a third year player. For the first two years he was learning a new offense. The WR coach spoke to the media a couple days ago. He gave a couple examples of route details MVS does now that he didn’t do last year and how the difference is, that the QB knows where he is going to be now and last year he’s run routes that got open but the QB couldn’t find him because he wasn’t where he was supposed to be.
Hearing that, hearing the camp praise and seemingly daily success..... there is a good chance both MVS and Lazard make huge leaps. Might be a monster year for Rodgers and the talented up and coming receivers!
With the veteran OL
The superstar QB
The star RB and deep stable behind him
The athletic up and coming TE
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Clearly the best defense and STs since 2010.....
Yeah, I like our Super Bowl chances this year.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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oh yeahOriginally posted by RashanGary View PostAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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I think Rodgers is about top 5ish
It's crazy that in the last half of 2019 AROD averages less than 210 passing yards a game.
Then again, it kinda make sense. When he led the Tennessee offense they were 27th in scoring and 30th in passing. And GB hasn't put a priority on getting AROD weapons.
We've become a run first team, and must of last year AROD was a very good game manager...not his fault....but it is what it is.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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I know I value game managers way more than most football fans. Rodgers wasn’t a good game manager, he was a HOF level, rare field general and he still made some magic too. AR had an amazing first season in a new offense. I couldn’t be happier with the QB we have.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
I think Rodgers is a great game manager.
And he's also the most under utilized QB in the NFL because of the circumstances he's inTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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