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  • Originally posted by falco View Post
    Just my $0.02, but the Woodson signing was TT's greatest move behind drafting Rodgers.
    I agree, but all things considered, Ted got lucky. Woodson at his age could easily have bombed out and made the signing a big waste. Same with Peppers.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      If love shows Hof stuff, you trade Rodgers without blinking
      No, you've got that backwards. You ride Rodgers as long as he is still GOAT-like, and if Love is good enough, sacrifice a mid-level contract at some other position to keep Love beyond the four years of his rookie contract.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
        I'm starting to see what Brandon is saying about the future thing. He wants a full sell out on resources for right now with no thought of the future and gute balances it.

        I understand gute trying to build sustainable success but I can see how someone just wants to shoot the whole load now too
        Go look at the cap situation. Gute already “Sold Out For Now.” We’re not keeping certain guys next year. The “Time Was Now” Based on contracts that were given and moves made including giving Rodgers that huge contract just two years ago with tons of guaranteed $.

        The FINAL MOVES were needed to be made and weren’t. It’s like they got halfway in and then decided to pull out. Now everyone is scratching their heads trying to figure it out.

        Like Bretsky posted it appears behind closed doors LaFluer and Gute don’t believe Rodgers is Elite anymore.

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        • I’m sure it also wore on LaFluer that Rodgers continued to audible and run his playbook instead of Lafleur’s on a a lot of plays and it’s wearing on LaFleur.

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          • I think Jordan Love is exactly what LaFluer wants. A guy that can run his playbook and follow through with plays called. LaFluer wants to run his system and believes starting from scratch with a new QB that he can influence is the way to go. It makes sense but not sure it will work.

            It didn’t with Mariota and the Titans.

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            • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              I agree, but all things considered, Ted got lucky. Woodson at his age could easily have bombed out and made the signing a big waste. Same with Peppers.
              That's true, but do you also say he got unlucky with the failed signings? If not, are you being unbiased in your assessment? There's an element of luck to every signing.

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              • On Gute’s side his ego runs high as exhibited over and over and he wants to get the the franchise back from Aaron Rodgers who has been the face of it for years and runs as Rodgers runs.

                Gute doesn’t like that.
                Last edited by GB-Brandon; 05-24-2020, 04:06 PM.

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                • The 2020 season is set up as nothing more then a “Look Everyone Rodgers Has Regressed” as we give him zero weapons and hang him out to dry. That’s how Gute Operates.

                  He did the same thing to McCarthy.

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                  • This Gute is bad news. I’m telling ya.

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                    • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                      I’m sure it also wore on LaFluer that Rodgers continued to audible and run his playbook instead of Lafleur’s on a a lot of plays and it’s wearing on LaFleur.
                      Putting words in LaFluer's or anyone's mouth is just wrong. Rodgers/LaFleur ran the media gauntlet last season and finished with a 13-3 record and a NFC North Title. No HC likes to watch his QB change his plays, but it "is" Rodgers job to change plays to avoid a defense that is targeted to stop a called play or to take advantage of a defensive weakness. I think they did quite well in 2019 and should do as well in 2020.

                      Jordan Love was drafted because he possesses both the physical and mental skills to someday be a starter. I said someday! Today he is learning his playbook like any rookie and will looking to Rodgers to minter him. I would not cast him as a ready to start QB until his 3rd or 4th NFL Season. Rodgers is not concerned over Love and will be the Packers QB until he retires/is injured/or is traded to another team. Rodgers is a sure HOF QB that has many years still left to play at the highest level, Love is project that has the golden opportunity to learn from Rodgers in the same way that Young learned from Joe Montana.

                      Gutekunst and Rodgers are not Thompson and Favre. I don't foresee any recapitulations of that "Greek Tragedy".
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                      • Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                        Putting words in LaFluer's or anyone's mouth is just wrong. Rodgers/LaFleur ran the media gauntlet last season and finished with a 13-3 record and a NFC North Title. No HC likes to watch his QB change his plays, but it "is" Rodgers job to change plays to avoid a defense that is targeted to stop a called play or to take advantage of a defensive weakness. I think they did quite well in 2019 and should do as well in 2020.

                        Jordan Love was drafted because he possesses both the physical and mental skills to someday be a starter. I said someday! Today he is learning his playbook like any rookie and will looking to Rodgers to minter him. I would not cast him as a ready to start QB until his 3rd or 4th NFL Season. Rodgers is not concerned over Love and will be the Packers QB until he retires/is injured/or is traded to another team. Rodgers is a sure HOF QB that has many years still left to play at the highest level, Love is project that has the golden opportunity to learn from Rodgers in the same way that Young learned from Joe Montana.

                        Gutekunst and Rodgers are not Thompson and Favre. I don't foresee any recapitulations of that "Greek Tragedy".
                        I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth. I’m following their “Actions” which I keep having to post. I also never said Love would start this season. The fact is whether you or anyone else wants to believe it or not is we’re moving into “A NEW ERA.” Shit, it’s even being painted on signs here and appears to be “The Narrative” here in Green Bay that does not include Rodgers. You don’t trade up in the first round to take a QB to put him on the bench for 3-4 years. It makes almost zero sense in today’s NFL.

                        The other moves or non-moves made makes it clear to see the Packers do not value going all in this year with Rodgers. In fact there moves that “Point to the future.” Rodgers will have to overcome so much this season and I’m not sure that he can go to the level required that will be necessary. I still believe he can win another Super Bowl but it will need to be with a different team that values him and puts the necessary pieces around him.

                        The chances Rodgers gets traded after 2020 IMO are much more possible then him staying and finishing out his contract. This season is gonna be a wild ride. Really the narrative around here should be “What will his trade value be next year” and “where does he get traded too”

                        Sorry this is so hard for you. It was for me as well.

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                        • Only thing I know for sure is Gute liked Love a lot. Traded up in the first round to get him.

                          And now we watch it play out.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Well i understand it’s a tough reality and bitter pill to swallow. This Jordan Love thing is “not an experiment” in their minds. It was a “Decisive Move” to replace Aaron Rodgers and subsequent moves reinforce their direction. Gute will ultimately live or die with the results as far as him remaining as GM for the Packers.

                            Heck, I can see a scenario where neither Jordan Love or Aaron Rodgers is our QB 3-4 years from now. This has the potential to go many different ways.

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                            • I think it was just a case of loving the player, not a forced move with the intention to remove Rodgers. But hey, we all have different opinions on what gute might thinking
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • I don't know I'm as sure of myself on what gute is thinking as you are. You really should find a way to take advantage of that talent
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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