2020 Wide Receivers

[Fosco33]

Look back to first couple season w/ Adams. People hated on him pretty hard.

I do think we’re missing a solid # 2 but ESB, MVS, Lazard and Kumerow could all be average (and future #2s).

[Smidgeon]

Look back to first couple season w/ Adams. People hated on him pretty hard.

I do think we’re missing a solid # 2 but ESB, MVS, Lazard and Kumerow could all be average (and future #2s).

I agree with everything except Kumerow. I think he's already at his ceiling.

[GB-Brandon]

Look back to first couple season w/ Adams. People hated on him pretty hard.

I do think we’re missing a solid # 2 but ESB, MVS, Lazard and Kumerow could all be average (and future #2s).

I hate this comparison though when people continue to use it. Adams had some elite numbers coming out of Fresno State and showed he “Belonged” as a rookie. Adams also might have some of the “Best Feet” as far as footwork of any receiver in the NFL. Adams played through a grueling high ankle sprain his sophomore season with Packers that affected him greatly. A similar injury that IR’d EQ for the entire season.

To compare these guys to him at this stage or at similar times in their respective careers is just such a leap of faith IMO.

None of these guys have Adams combination of Explosion, Agility, natural footwork, fluidity or Body control which is more or less why none of them were drafted like Adams in the 2nd round.

[GB-Brandon]

You can’t turn a Donkey into a Kentucky Derby Winner!!!!!

[bobblehead]

I hate this comparison though when people continue to use it. Adams had some elite numbers coming out of Fresno State and showed he “Belonged” as a rookie. Adams also might have some of the “Best Feet” as far as footwork of any receiver in the NFL. Adams played through a grueling high ankle sprain his sophomore season with Packers that affected him greatly. A similar injury that IR’d EQ for the entire season.

To compare these guys to him at this stage or at similar times in their respective careers is just such a leap of faith IMO.

None of these guys have Adams combination of Explosion, Agility, natural footwork, fluidity or Body control which is more or less why none of them were drafted like Adams in the 2nd round.

Sounds like you make a lot of excuses for Adams dud start to his career but refuse to accept any regarding MVS or EQS injuries last season. Both those players are nearly mirroring the path Adams and James Jones took.

edit: And after further review, Adams combine numbers paled in comparison to MVS and he had inferior numbers his first 2 seasons to MVS.

Year one:
MVS 38 581 15.3 DA 38 446 11.7
Year two:
MVS 26 452 17.4 DA 50 483 9.7

MVS hurt his knee in the Lions game I think it was like week 5. Wasn't the same all year. I expect a nice season from him.

[call_me_ishmael]

Aaron Rodgers said Devante was a pro bowl type elite talent as a rookie. Adams also showed up huge in several cases as a rook. I think it's a big time stretch to say anyone is on close to the same trajectory as he was early in his career. Keep in mind he did a lot with two quality receivers in front of him, where as the bums behind him have only one legit guy at the top.

[bobblehead]

Aaron Rodgers said Devante was a pro bowl type elite talent as a rookie. Adams also showed up huge in several cases as a rook. I think it's a big time stretch to say anyone is on close to the same trajectory as he was early in his career. Keep in mind he did a lot with two quality receivers in front of him, where as the bums behind him have only one legit guy at the top.

Big praise from Aaron Rodgers on MVS, says he had a good spring and has what it takes to be an everydown player ARod - June 4th 2019

Also many quotes about how some guys run a 4.4 but MVS PLAYS to a 4.4. Arod has praised MVS many times.

[bobblehead]

Aaron Rodgers said Devante was a pro bowl type elite talent as a rookie. Adams also showed up huge in several cases as a rook. I think it's a big time stretch to say anyone is on close to the same trajectory as he was early in his career. Keep in mind he did a lot with two quality receivers in front of him, where as the bums behind him have only one legit guy at the top.

The bums behind him have HIM in front of them.

[GB-Brandon]

Sounds like you make a lot of excuses for Adams dud start to his career but refuse to accept any regarding MVS or EQS injuries last season. Both those players are nearly mirroring the path Adams and James Jones took.

edit: And after further review, Adams combine numbers paled in comparison to MVS and he had inferior numbers his first 2 seasons to MVS.

Year one:
MVS 38 581 15.3 DA 38 446 11.7
Year two:
MVS 26 452 17.4 DA 50 483 9.7

MVS hurt his knee in the Lions game I think it was like week 5. Wasn't the same all year. I expect a nice season from him.

Now you have gone completely "Cray Cray"

Adams had Rodgers dreaming of Greg Jennings as Rookie. These scrubs had Rodgers calling out the receiving corp repeatedly after practices.

Adams has the "It Factor". Just look at some of his film at Fresno State. He is a true "Ankle Breaker". His body control. His smoothness. His acceleration and ability to throttle up and down is second to none. His ability to high point. Adams was just playing with cats at Fresno State. Go look at the production!!!!

You put this all together and you can obviously see why Thompson grabbed him in the second round. Can you please come back to Planet Earth?

[GB-Brandon]

Aaron Rodgers said Devante was a pro bowl type elite talent as a rookie. Adams also showed up huge in several cases as a rook. I think it's a big time stretch to say anyone is on close to the same trajectory as he was early in his career. Keep in mind he did a lot with two quality receivers in front of him, where as the bums behind him have only one legit guy at the top.

Yep,

See New England Game and Dallas Playoff game. We don’t win those games without him most likely.

[GB-Brandon]

Big praise from Aaron Rodgers on MVS, says he had a good spring and has what it takes to be an everydown player ARod - June 4th 2019

Also many quotes about how some guys run a 4.4 but MVS PLAYS to a 4.4. Arod has praised MVS many times.

What do you really expect him to say at this point?

It’s like he is stuck in a marriage that the judge says he can’t get out of for another year so he has to make it look good until he can get out.

[GB-Brandon]

It’s very clear at this point that Rodgers has zero input or influence on what the front office does as far as personnel moves or trying to make him happy or appease him in any fashion.

I have a hard time believing the best option on the table was bringing in Malik Turner and Travis Fulgham all things considered. The Packers have assets to trade such as Jamal Williams and Josh Jackson along with draft picks and cap space. This is not an organization acting with any urgency to WIN NOW.

[Patler]

It’s very clear at this point that Rodgers has zero input or influence on what the front office does as far as personnel moves or trying to make him happy or appease him in any fashion.

Nor should he have any such input or influence. He is paid (very well) to be their QB with all it entails on the field, in the locker room and with and among the players. The last thing I want is Rodgers as "GM, Jr."

It should not be the goal or responsibility of the GM, coach, Pres or others to make Rodgers happy or appease him, other than when they can do so consistent with their overall plans for the organization, both short term and long.

[bobblehead]

What do you really expect him to say at this point?

It’s like he is stuck in a marriage that the judge says he can’t get out of for another year so he has to make it look good until he can get out.

So D had the it factor and Rodgers was lying about MVS last year. Got it. You are very intelligent.

[bobblehead]

It’s very clear at this point that Rodgers has zero input or influence on what the front office does as far as personnel moves or trying to make him happy or appease him in any fashion.

I have a hard time believing the best option on the table was bringing in Malik Turner and Travis Fulgham all things considered. The Packers have assets to trade such as Jamal Williams and Josh Jackson along with draft picks and cap space. This is not an organization acting with any urgency to WIN NOW.

Now you really show your brilliance. You could get a GM to give you something for Josh Jackson and Jamaal Williams...anything. That would make you the best GM in history.