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  • Originally posted by Vincenzo View Post
    The 2010 Championship took the sting out of the 15-1 Packers getting punched in the mouth by the Giants in 2011 in front of our fans at Lambeau. I know it was painful but I don’t care what you say.
    The most painful, shit the bed playoff loss was the one where the Pack had it wrapped up in the NFC Championship game vs Seattle only to lose it in OT. It was that Bostick blunder that cost us a Super Bowl appearance.
    That was one of the most painful losses any fan could endure. I don’t like even thinking about it!
    I would say that you could kinda see loss in 2011 coming. That defense was like butter.

    That Seattle game was definitely an all-time heartbreaker. Were you around for the 4th-and-26 debacle against the Iggles? That one hurt. That team had the defense and the running game to go all the way. They'd have crushed Carolina the next week, if only Shermy had gone for it on fourth down late in the game instead of punting.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
      So last year Lazard was our #2 after not being on the roster to start the season. This year he looks legit and has drawn comparision to Colton for body type and style.

      Mvs is a legit #3 take the top off deep threat.

      I guess my question is are we maybe better at wr than any of us thought?

      I dont thinnnk anyone saw it as a strenght going into the season but a few of us thought we were about 16th to 24th in the league. Are we actually top half or maybe even touching top 1/3rd??
      All bullshit aside the Packers offense has obviously surpassed pretty much everyone’s expectations thus far and not adding more receivers through the draft or other means hasn’t been needed “YET“ through 3 weeks of the season. However; we simply can’t come to the conclusion and say Gute was right or Gute was wrong or I was right or I was wrong at this point being 3 weeks into the season. We have a long way to go. Lazard is going to be fine as long as he can stay healthy. MVS is still kind of a mixed bag. The big worry for me like I keep saying is the drop off after Adams and Lazard. Maybe they can get some depth with St. Brown. If that’s the case then things can most likely keep rolling but it’s far from a slam dunk.

      Without having an “All-Star TE” I’d still really like to see Gute be aggressive here and bring in another competent WR to secure the rotation. This doesn’t mean going out and trading a 1st round pick for OBJ but rather getting someone at that mid-range level at the very least. My fear is having to rely on Shepherd or Taylor come playoff time’and potentially costing us.

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      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
        All bullshit aside the Packers offense has obviously surpassed pretty much everyone’s expectations thus far and not adding more receivers through the draft or other means hasn’t been needed “YET“ through 3 weeks of the season. However; we simply can’t come to the conclusion and say Gute was right or Gute was wrong or I was right or I was wrong at this point being 3 weeks into the season. We have a long way to go. Lazard is going to be fine as long as he can stay healthy. MVS is still kind of a mixed bag. The big worry for me like I keep saying is the drop off after Adams and Lazard. Maybe they can get some depth with St. Brown. If that’s the case then things can most likely keep rolling but it’s far from a slam dunk.

        Without having an “All-Star TE” I’d still really like to see Gute be aggressive here and bring in another competent WR to secure the rotation. This doesn’t mean going out and trading a 1st round pick for OBJ but rather getting someone at that mid-range level at the very least. My fear is having to rely on Shepherd or Taylor come playoff time’and potentially costing us.
        We are a forgiving group here. I will take it easy on you if you become rational and a valuable poster. However if you continue to pretend you though Lazard was anything other than the shit that you called him all offseason I will call you clown shoes.

        Here is how a post from you should read:

        I admit I was wrong about the WR room. Lazard and MVS have turned out to be very valuable weapons. Hell, even sans Adams the WR did a stellar job against a good Saints defense. I would still like one more solid WR on the roster, but a team can't have everything. What a great start for the offense that I thought would be handicapped by lack of WR talent and instead has broken every 3 week record like ever in history. VIVA LA PACKERS. Rodgers is playing great and its a great time to be a packers fan!!!

        If you posted something like that we would all gain a lot of respect for you. But instead you try to pretend you were on the Lazard wagon and the only issue you had was our #4 WR.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
          So last year Lazard was our #2 after not being on the roster to start the season. This year he looks legit and has drawn comparision to Colton for body type and style.

          Mvs is a legit #3 take the top off deep threat.

          I guess my question is are we maybe better at wr than any of us thought?

          I dont thinnnk anyone saw it as a strenght going into the season but a few of us thought we were about 16th to 24th in the league. Are we actually top half or maybe even touching top 1/3rd??
          Uh, actually I did say we were fine with WRs going into the season, although Lazard has surpassed even my expectations. MVS has been very good, but I expected that. Get St. Brown back too, and we are outstanding in that area. And the TEs - where I did think we were deficient - are shaping up pretty well too.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            Uh, actually I did say we were fine with WRs going into the season, although Lazard has surpassed even my expectations. MVS has been very good, but I expected that. Get St. Brown back too, and we are outstanding in that area. And the TEs - where I did think we were deficient - are shaping up pretty well too.
            So you actually thought receivers were a STRENGHT on the team? Fine to me does not equal strenght.
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              So you actually thought receivers were a STRENGHT on the team? Fine to me does not equal strenght.
              hahahaha I guess it depends what you mean by strength. I watched a thing on YouTube yesterday of Packer great moments, and the thing that struck me the most was how many "superstar" Packer WRs left as free agents or whatever and then floundered with other teams - Jennings, Jones, Jordy, you could even include that current tire salesman. To me, that says it's all about the QB throwing to them making them seem better than they are - Favre or Rodgers.

              So if you want to paint a fine line between "fine" and "strength", yes, I thought we were fine with Davante, Lazard, Valdez-Scantling, and St. Brown coming back even before the season, and I'll upgrade that to "strength" now, Strength being defined as maybe top 5 or so in the league.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • IIRC Tex has been saying that we are good enough at WR. I don't recall him saying it was a weakness or a strength necessary, but good enough to get the job done. So far, he's been right.

                IMO they are exceeding expectations so far.

                I was one who was in favor of drafting 1-2 WR's; I figured Adams isn't getting any younger and after him it's a lot of hoping. Lazard seemed pretty good last year and I figured he'd be at least a solid #3. Signing Begelton and Funchess somewhat mitigated the WR draft issue, but I'd still like to see them get more young talent in the pipeline to develop. While you can find the occasional diamond in the rough like Lazard, I don't think you can rely on stocking your WR room with UDFAs...they still need to occasionally spend some draft capital on a WR. They did that 3 years ago, but they need to do it again. The J'Mon Moore pick stings.

                It's been proven that you can get pretty far with ok WRs if you have a great QB. Favre and Rodgers have done it...many other QBs have too.
                Having stud WRs and a great QB just makes the offense that much more dangerous. I think ultimately that's an argument we all agree on, but harping on it over and over doesn't really accomplish anything.

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                • My point was not to harp but find out where we are now fromyour observation actions. Text said top 5.
                  Im more top 10 with h Adams. Maybe top 7 but I want more consistency from mvs and just more time to review lizard.
                  My biggest take away though is we are better than expected
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    We are a forgiving group here. I will take it easy on you if you become rational and a valuable poster. However if you continue to pretend you though Lazard was anything other than the shit that you called him all offseason I will call you clown shoes.

                    Here is how a post from you should read:

                    I admit I was wrong about the WR room. Lazard and MVS have turned out to be very valuable weapons. Hell, even sans Adams the WR did a stellar job against a good Saints defense. I would still like one more solid WR on the roster, but a team can't have everything. What a great start for the offense that I thought would be handicapped by lack of WR talent and instead has broken every 3 week record like ever in history. VIVA LA PACKERS. Rodgers is playing great and its a great time to be a packers fan!!!

                    If you posted something like that we would all gain a lot of respect for you. But instead you try to pretend you were on the Lazard wagon and the only issue you had was our #4 WR.

                    Since you refuse to let it die.

                    Per PFF

                    Devante Adams 80.4

                    Allen Lazard 67.7

                    Tyler Ervin 62.9

                    Darrius Shepherd 55.5

                    MVS 53.9

                    Malik Taylor NG

                    I see two receivers that have proven they can be trusted. Adams and Lazard. Ervin isn’t an every down weapon. MVS more of the one trick pony that is exactly what i projected. If i missed the mark on anyone it was Lazard being able to make more explosive plays down field which i did not account for. This is a good thing. However; I still don’t believe this receiving Corp is built for a 16 game schedule plus a playoff run. Have I been wrong for 3 games? Sure!! I’ll take it. I will post for the last time that i believe they need to add someone else to the rotation for good measure. Especially if St. Brown isn’t going to pan out.

                    As far as “You Can’t Have it All” is total Bullshit!! Go tell that to the Chiefs!! Once again it’s a “Willingness”. The Packers made other decisions they deemed more important!!
                    Last edited by GB-Brandon; 09-29-2020, 01:31 PM.

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                    • Aaron Rodgers PFF 95.6

                      Let’s not fool ourselves here!!!!

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                      • You put Ryan Tannehill in this offense and all these “Great Receivers” you think you have die a “Slow Death”

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                        • But I’m sure someone will tell me that PFF is full of crap and Rodgers rating is too high and Lazard’s and MVS’s should be higher!! LOL

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                          • People deserve Jordan Love!!!!!

                            Bottom line!!!!!

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                            • Part of me can’t wait till they get it!!!

                              Yep, sell the house. There will be no more Super Bowls!!!

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                              • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                People deserve Jordan Love!!!!!

                                Bottom line!!!!!
                                You're preaching to the wrong choir on this song. I don't recall ONE Packerrats poster in "love" with the pick.

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