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  • Why the Packers are better than last year: O edition

    More versatility and 2nd year in the system.

    Guys who already have report in the offense, witb the QB - Adams/A Jones/Lazard

    That alone made for a highly functional offense. But we have a whole list of guys who are at ages and stages where you would expect growth. MVS, Funchess over Allison, Sternberger, EQ and then the big running back along with firey tight end from this year's draft. Also, Jamal Williams and his trainer are all over twitter. Guy is working hard on running pass routes this offeason and looks in great shape.

    Good OL stability. A lot of OL depth. And a bunch of pieces now who can bring run or pass to the table on any given down.

    I expect to see Aaron and company take something that was already good to a new level as everyone settles in and masters the details of their versatile roles in this balanced run/pass offense.

    Didn't lose anyone of note. Bunch of young guys growing in their roles. A couple higher draft picks. BETTER! And being in the second year in the system, all the teams installing new systems at a big disadvantage this shortened off-season. So there is some circumstantial reason for improvment over the competition as well!
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  • #2
    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Didn't lose anyone of note.
    Bulaga?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      There is some reason for cautious optimism. Funchess, a healthy ESB and a healthy MVS (he was hurt for much of the year). plus an established Lazard should make for a better WR corp. Matt Ryan had the best year of his career in his 2nd year in with MLF. At TE, Sternberger and Deguara will give MLF more of what he's looking for from the TE/HB position. When teams want to play heavy on defense to take away Aaron Jones, they'll have to deal with Dillon. Just a lot more versatility in this offense than what we saw last year.
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      • #4
        There is no denying the o should improve. 2nd year of system with a young group of wrs who should (should...) be improved. Likely better fun game, however we did lose buluga which is major imo.
        I think we improved both our run game and our passing game.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
          There is no denying the o should improve. 2nd year of system with a young group of wrs who should (should...) be improved. Likely better fun game, however we did lose buluga which is major imo.
          I think we improved both our run game and our passing game.
          Well, who doesn't want to have fun?

          They likely will have to adjust their blocking schemes some against some opponents. Can't always put Rick Wagner out on an island like you did with Bulaga.
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          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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          • #6
            Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
            More versatility and 2nd year in the system.

            Guys who already have report in the offense, witb the QB - Adams/A Jones/Lazard

            That alone made for a highly functional offense. But we have a whole list of guys who are at ages and stages where you would expect growth. MVS, Funchess over Allison, Sternberger, EQ and then the big running back along with firey tight end from this year's draft. Also, Jamal Williams and his trainer are all over twitter. Guy is working hard on running pass routes this offeason and looks in great shape.

            Good OL stability. A lot of OL depth. And a bunch of pieces now who can bring run or pass to the table on any given down.

            I expect to see Aaron and company take something that was already good to a new level as everyone settles in and masters the details of their versatile roles in this balanced run/pass offense.

            Didn't lose anyone of note. Bunch of young guys growing in their roles. A couple higher draft picks. BETTER! And being in the second year in the system, all the teams installing new systems at a big disadvantage this shortened off-season. So there is some circumstantial reason for improvment over the competition as well!
            Another breath of fresh air, RG. Staying the same would be great; Being just a little bit better is ..... just a little bit better.

            The 2019 model Bulaga will be missed - a little bit anyway, but heaven knows we got along without him a lot over the years. Bottom line of the O Line situation, as I see it, Aaron Rodgers has literally never had decent pass blocking, and he's still the GOAT. As for run blocking, it certainly seemed to me that Aaron Jones and Williams got most of their yardage on inside zone plays and seldom had success running over Bulaga.

            The only disturbing thing about your post is your thing in the first line - "2nd year in the system". I think they did so well last season in spite of, not because of LaFleur new system. The success came primarily from getting away from it and doing things the Aaron Rodgers way. I expect more of the same this year.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              Another breath of fresh air, RG. Staying the same would be great; Being just a little bit better is ..... just a little bit better.

              The 2019 model Bulaga will be missed - a little bit anyway, but heaven knows we got along without him a lot over the years. Bottom line of the O Line situation, as I see it, Aaron Rodgers has literally never had decent pass blocking, and he's still the GOAT. As for run blocking, it certainly seemed to me that Aaron Jones and Williams got most of their yardage on inside zone plays and seldom had success running over Bulaga.

              The only disturbing thing about your post is your thing in the first line - "2nd year in the system". I think they did so well last season in spite of, not because of LaFleur new system. The success came primarily from getting away from it and doing things the Aaron Rodgers way. I expect more of the same this year.
              If last year was the result of doing things the Aaron Rodgers Way, perhaps they need to go with MLF's system more. Packers were 15th in points scored, 18th in total yardage, 17th in passing yards, 15th in rushing yards, 16th in 1st downs, etc. Is that what you mean by "so well"?
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              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
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              • #8
                No, I mean 13-3 and the NFC finals.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  No, I mean 13-3 and the NFC finals.
                  Ya, it’s pretty hard to improve on that, not to mention how well Aaron Jones did as our RB.
                  Nevertheless, I get what the OP is getting at, on paper there is certainly room for optimism.

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                  • #10
                    The Packers are better than last year because they gave Rodgers a reality check.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      There is some reason for cautious optimism. Funchess, a healthy ESB and a healthy MVS (he was hurt for much of the year). plus an established Lazard should make for a better WR corp. Matt Ryan had the best year of his career in his 2nd year in with MLF. At TE, Sternberger and Deguara will give MLF more of what he's looking for from the TE/HB position. When teams want to play heavy on defense to take away Aaron Jones, they'll have to deal with Dillon. Just a lot more versatility in this offense than what we saw last year.
                      To be fair WRT to Matt Ryan, I think the talent the Falcons had of offense was much better than what the Packers have. They smoked a Packers team that I view as very similar in a lot of ways as far as talent, speed, etc. That team was so fast!

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                      • #12
                        This could very well be that cliche season: they improved as a team but their record didn't. It's really hard to improve on 13-3. They weren't that good.

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                        • #13
                          That could happen - although I would think not by much. Aside from sheer bad luck like injuries, etc., the reason it could happen is that our schedule appears to be tougher than last year.
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                          • #14
                            Why they are not better than last year: they keep hiring quality control people to serve as WR coaches

                            Jason Vrable
                            fter a 13-3 regular-season campaign and a trip to the NFC championship game, Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur made some changes on his coaching staff. Secondary coach Jason Simmons left to take a similar position in Carolina and LaFleur fired wide receivers coach Alvis Whitted in January.

                            In their places, LaFleur hired veteran coach Jerry Gray to take over the secondary and promoted Jason Vrable to coach the receivers. Vrable spent last year as an offensive assistant for the Packers and Gray had coached the Minnesota Vikings secondary for the last six seasons before being fired at the end of last year. A four-time Pro Bowl cornerback for the Rams, he served as defensive coordinator with the Buffalo Bills (2001-05) and the Tennessee Titans (2011-13).

                            Quarterbacks coach Luke Getsy also earned a promotion, adding passing game coordinator to his résumé. LaFleur also hired longtime college and NFL offensive line coach Butch Barry as a senior analyst.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Why they are not better than last year: they keep hiring quality control people to serve as WR coaches

                              Jason Vrable




                              https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...re/5267300002/

                              Of note, both Getsy and Vrable were successful college qb's. Getsy at Akron and Vrable at Marietta.

                              Getsy, the new passing game coordinator and Vrable, WR coach , should work well together as I assume they both will be working from a QB point of view with regards to receiver routes, etc.

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