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  • #16
    I think I agree with Tex here.

    It's all about optionality. The Packers now have a hedge against Rodgers decline as well as against some of his shenanigans.

    What they don't have is his sure fire successor.

    Enterprises work to hedge against catastrophic risk and to plan for the future. It's hard for me not to see that this way. I may be proven wrong if the whole thing blows up in their face.
    Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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    • #17
      Originally posted by falco View Post
      I think I agree with Tex here.

      It's all about optionality. The Packers now have a hedge against Rodgers decline as well as against some of his shenanigans.

      What they don't have is his sure fire successor.

      Enterprises work to hedge against catastrophic risk and to plan for the future. It's hard for me not to see that this way. I may be proven wrong if the whole thing blows up in their face.
      I don’t see anything wrong with “Hedging Play or contracts for that matter” but first things first. If we have an offense that isn’t complete then what are we really hedging? It’s kinda like putting the cart in front of the horse. I mean like your last post you were even uncertain who are slot receiver was last year. So we’re basically “Hedging” at something that is incomplete to begin with. Gute was supposed to fix all this.

      Rodgers is gonna take his 34 million and smile the whole way either way Gute goes. Nobody knows how long he will be here for sure other then “This Season.” So then the question is “What is the Ultimate Goal Of This Franchise In 2020?” Is it to just compete while we go through this transformation or is it to Win A Championships? Nobody is taking about Super Bowls anymore at 1265 Lombardi which is a concern to start even start with. Our offense hasn’t scared anyone for years. Our defense gave up 186 yards rushing “before contact” against the Niners in the Champ Game.

      I’m sorry but this mediocre receiving Corp and lack of disrupters up front on defense is what needs to be “Hedged Against With Assets.” There are moves out there Gute could make that are potential “Game Changers” for this current roster. We’re gonna lose some guys next year. If they really wanna make a legitimate run at the time is now.

      Last edited by GB-Brandon; 05-15-2020, 09:38 PM.

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      • #18
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        Last edited by GB-Brandon; 05-15-2020, 10:01 PM.

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        • #19
          I'm looking forward to seeing Rodgers lead an offense with so much firepower at the RB position.

          A feiry competitor like Rodgers, the experience..... He'll add to the run game too with his cadence and the pace he pushes and the checks and overall composure of the operation. Brady is the best at that, but AR can be right there at this point in his career.

          And I like the two young tight ends. Sternberger was shockingly aggressive and enthusiastic as a blocker. And Deguara has that quality too. The OL, tight ends and backs all playing aggressive, attacking football. I know Rodgers has a reputation as the goat with moving around and throwing the ball.... But he's at an age and stage where he enjoys seeing the guys fired up and winning some fist fights.

          I actually think Rodgers is gonna benefit and enjoy the new direction of the offense.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #20
            Plus, AR is a big legacy guy and history guy. It'll feel even better for him to win knowing the team didn't spend the first round pick on him. Like, look, I'm so good, I don't even need a first round receiver.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              I tell you what pbmax, the word intelligence comes to mind with Aaron Rodgers and his very high IQ has a lot to do with how he conducts himself in mid-May. There’s no way he’s going to say anything stupid at this point.
              And even if he is a complete dick.
              Last edited by Vincenzo; 05-15-2020, 11:40 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by falco View Post

                It's all about optionality. The Packers now have a hedge against Rodgers decline as well as against some of his shenanigans.

                What they don't have is his sure fire successor.

                Enterprises work to hedge against catastrophic risk and to plan for the future. It's hard for me not to see that this way. I may be proven wrong if the whole thing blows up in their face.
                Dude you sound like a cross between my brother and my wife. My brother is a successful VP at a Big Bank and my wife is an Audit Risk and Compliance director at a large transit commission/authority.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  Plus, AR is a big legacy guy and history guy. It'll feel even better for him to win knowing the team didn't spend the first round pick on him. Like, look, I'm so good, I don't even need a first round receiver.

                  You sound like you are trying to sell yourself on this stuff

                  What I heard. AROD was surprised but in public he's going to toe the line. He realizes his goal is still to play at least 4 years and realizes the drafting of the Love Machine makes it unlikely he plays 4 more years in Green Bay
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #24
                    IMO The RB talent from 1-4 is cumulatively the most talented they have ever had on the roster and there set up for injury and attrition. I can’t wait to see these guys and hope I get a chance at camp. I like where the OL is at and I believe Runyan will contribute this year at some point. The wild card being Wagner. I like the TE group collectively and what they can do with Deguara. I kinda feel like that was a LaFLeur pick that he can expand his scheme with . M.Lewis is a locker room leader and very good blocker still at his age. I’ve met him and he is a big dude. Sternberger will be better then Graham of last year.

                    Then we get to WR. I really believe this offense is one playmaker at WR away from being very very lethal. It would be the final piece.

                    Then it would come down to health.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post

                      What I heard. AROD was surprised but in public he's going to toe the line. He realizes his goal is still to play at least 4 years and realizes the drafting of the Love Machine makes it unlikely he plays 4 more years in Green Bay
                      Love Machine, are you serious Bretsky? Have you been taking some sort of Tablets?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        He's handling it well. Really likes Lazard. He's embracing his game manager role.
                        Sometimes I wonder about you
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by falco View Post
                          I think I agree with Tex here.

                          It's all about optionality. The Packers now have a hedge against Rodgers decline as well as against some of his shenanigans.

                          What they don't have is his sure fire successor.

                          Enterprises work to hedge against catastrophic risk and to plan for the future. It's hard for me not to see that this way. I may be proven wrong if the whole thing blows up in their face.
                          I think the blow up is less likely with Rodgers/Gute than Favre/Thompson but it seems like the burden of communication has once again fallen to the coach. Apparently something else Mr. Silo hasn't fixed.

                          I agree that Love is a potential successor at this point. And it could be a year or two or three before they are comfortable with him starting.

                          However, its also possible as others have pointed out that La Fleur doesn't want the Rodger's offense anymore. And its possible Gute doesn't want the cap restraint. So there could be pressure to end Rodgers time with the Packers early. Timing is a big thing though. As Andy Herman wrote, if you want to run a version of LaFleur's offense with a young QB and room to spend to help them, then Love really needs to be starting in his Year 3, 2022. He could start in 2021, but you won't have a ton of cap room yet if you resign the vets coming up.

                          Its not going to be a traditional rebuild in 2021 if the succession happens then. But it could be a blowout in 2022.
                          Last edited by pbmax; 05-16-2020, 08:04 AM.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                            IMO The RB talent from 1-4 is cumulatively the most talented they have ever had on the roster and there set up for injury and attrition. I can’t wait to see these guys and hope I get a chance at camp.
                            Ahman Green, Vernand Morency, Noah Herron and Dr. Gado beg to differ.

                            But Ahman Green, Najeh "Compost" Davenport, Tony Fisher and William Henderson would like to fight you.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Sometimes I wonder about you


                              my bet was the booze was kicking in
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Ahman Green, Vernand Morency, Noah Herron and Dr. Gado beg to differ.

                                But Ahman Green, Najeh "Compost" Davenport, Tony Fisher and William Henderson would like to fight you.
                                My first thought also was Green, Davenpoop, Henderson and Fisher.

                                They had the 4th and 26 game on ESPN2 last night. It would be nice to actually show some of the games the Packers won once and a while.

                                So far they have had the Fail Mary, 95 Cowboys NFC title game and 4th and 26.
                                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                                -Tim Harmston

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