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  • #16
    I wouldn't be surprise at all if that happened. He just might be a very good zone D Corner. I really wish Pettine wasn't so damn stubbornly opposed to playing zone.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      The problem is, in Pettine's defense, you need shutdown Corners, at least one for sure.

      I read the percentages in Joe's post above. Are 53% and 58% seriously considered good? They sure don't seem very good to me - more than half the passes thrown their way completed?

      We were 9th against the pass and 23rd against the run? I seem to remember some real stinker games against both, but we were 13-3, so what the heck. Maybe the higher rank against the pass was because a lot of teams were successful running on us and stuck with that. Also, we had a lot of sacks and hurries. Maybe our pass rush accounts for a lot of that high rank against the pass.

      Ya'all know, usually I'm about the last person in here to be negative about anything Packer, but I just have bad memories of both King and Alexander getting beat, King just about all the time, it seemed, and Alexander whenever he single-covered somebody good.
      The average completion percentage in the NFL is 63%. Stephon Gilmore, who was probably the NFL's best CB last year, allowed a completion percentage of 50.5. So I would say Alexander's 53% was well above average. King's 58% was probably pretty average. At any rate, if Alexander and King were as bad as you say, Packers would not have been 9th in the NFL against the pass.
      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        hahahahahaha I guess statistics never lie ...... like the stat of 13 wins and 3 losses.

        I read a huge amount of crap every day in here about that stat being misleading. My take is that the 13 and 3 is a valid indicator, and the pass D stat is misleading. I guess we'll see going forward how it plays out.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          hahahahahaha I guess statistics never lie ...... like the stat of 13 wins and 3 losses.

          I read a huge amount of crap every day in here about that stat being misleading. My take is that the 13 and 3 is a valid indicator, and the pass D stat is misleading. I guess we'll see going forward how it plays out.
          Its not a lie. But the team is unlikely to be as healthy as they were last year. There is a first place schedule to compete against.

          I think this is a good team, much closer in talent to the results in 2016/19 than 2017 or 2018.

          But they aren't world beaters yet.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Its not a lie. But the team is unlikely to be as healthy as they were last year. There is a first place schedule to compete against.

            I think this is a good team, much closer in talent to the results in 2016/19 than 2017 or 2018.

            But they aren't world beaters yet.
            I pretty much agree with this. Playoff contender, but not in the class of KC, Baltimore and New Orleans.

            As a fan, I like to picture possibilities too. There's a chance a few things could fall our way and be contenders. I'm not betting on it tho.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              I pretty much agree with this. Playoff contender, but not in the class of KC, Baltimore and New Orleans.

              As a fan, I like to picture possibilities too. There's a chance a few things could fall our way and be contenders. I'm not betting on it tho.
              If you were a New Orleans fan, you would be posting about yearly playoff disappointment. People ALWAYS overrate that team.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #22
                Still have hope for EQ, and Lazard, Sullivan, and Green take some of the sting out of what is a pretty bad draft.

                Been wondering for years if the Packers actually go back and evaluate past drafts by comparing their scouting report against the hard results??

                Does Sam Seale need to go?? Other shakeups the scouting dept??
                wist

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Josh Jackson might not be built for this defense, but like Heyward, he is going to go somewhere and play well.
                  This would not shock me at all, sadly.
                  Pettine has had some pretty good talent to work with. How that talent is coached and used might be his downfall.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    I mean, credit to the coaches for not playing the busted high picks. How long did we have to watch Randall start over Hyde or Jamaal Williams play over Jones in the McCarthy regime. Fuck.
                    Or Hawk and whoever play ahead of Desmond Bishop.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      I mean, credit to the coaches for not playing the busted high picks. How long did we have to watch Randall start over Hyde snip
                      2 years. But it wasn't Randall keeping Hyde on the bench. It was Burnett and the other safety flavor of the month.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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