Anyone know this trivia answer

[mraynrand]

Was thinking maybe Brees to Peterman, but they didn't connect in AP's brief stint in NO and neither was a Heisman winner.

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[Patler]

That sounded like a great answer, so I checked. College football stats list Brady's first TD pass being the year after Woodson left.

Hard to think of two other college teammates with that many Pro Bowls, let alone meeting the other requirements.

Woodson had TD receptions in 1996 and 1997. But according to wiki, Brady had no TD passes in 1996 or 1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady

Yup, I even checked their bowl games, in case Brady had one that didn't show up in his season stats. Nothing. Checked several sources. No TD passes for Brady in the years he and Woodson were teammates.

[texaspackerbacker]

I haven't been able to come up with an answer either, but I did have this thought: what if his WR was a DB too - like Woodson - and the "TD pass" was a pick six? I checked Oakland QBs who played with Woodson, and none of them seemed to fit, but maybe some other similar pair. Rich Gannon was MVP in 2002 and is not in the Hall of Fame, but I doubt his Delaware Blue Hens ever played Michigan. There are actually ten retired MVP QBs who are not in the Hall of Fame, but there are very few Heisman winning WRs who might have also played some DB. I tried to correlate them but came up dry.

[mraynrand]

It has to be recent because there’s no pair in history who has that combination of mvp and pro bowls who aren’t in the HOF. It can’t be Nile Kinnick and Don Hutson for example. (And they did not overlap in college)

[mraynrand]

On an unrelated note, in a four year career, Kregg Lumpkin has 42 rushes and 45 receptions but never scored a touchdown.

[pbmax]

I come to this site because nowhere else but their family text chains do you get Kinnick and Lumpkin mentions.

My guess of Eddie George (1 reception TD in college) and a Hoying brother (Bobby or Tom) or Stanley Jackson did not pan out.

[mraynrand]

It’s got to be a current QB throwing to a Heisman winner before one or both transferred. (Or more likely it’s Brady/Woodson and the question is inaccurate)

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, I'm beginning to think the question is inaccurate. There are so few Heisman winners who were anybody's Wide Receiver, and the few it could have been like Tim Brown and Desmond Howard, not to mention Woodson, don't seem to correlate with any NFL MVP who threw passes in college but isn't in the Hall.

[RashanGary]

Manning and Witten?

[mraynrand]

Manning and Witten?

Written was never MVP nor Heisman

I thought Manning was already in the HOF but I guess this year is five years. He’s a good guess for the QB (assuming it’s a QB and not a trick play scenario)

[Zool]

Peerless Price was the WR with the most NFL success from Peyton's years in Tennessee, but no Pro Bowls.

[SudsMcBucky]

Peerless Price was the WR with the most NFL success from Peyton's years in Tennessee, but no Pro Bowls.

Funny story. His kids went to the same small private school as my daughter. At Field Day, I got to race him in the 40, along with the other dads. On the bad side, let's just say it wasn't a race. On the good side, I at least came in 2nd out of about 25. Pearless turned around and "ran" the last 10 yards backwards. LOL.

[Zool]

I thought maybe this was a trick and it was Hornung and someone else, but he only had 3 Pro Bowls. I can't find a QB that had 20.

[Zool]

Funny story. His kids went to the same small private school as my daughter. At Field Day, I got to race him in the 40, along with the other dads. On the bad side, let's just say it wasn't a race. On the good side, I at least came in 2nd out of about 25. Pearless turned around and "ran" the last 10 yards backwards. LOL.

That's an awesome story. I have a similar brush. I went to high school with Darryl Thompson. I was a sophomore when he was a senior. We played a game of pick-up football at a local park. It quickly went from tackle to 2 hand touch. There's a different level of speed that those guys have. We were all running in oatmeal by comparison.

[Fosco33]

I was thinking Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees based on probowls. But Brees doesn’t have an MVP or a Heisman.