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  • #31
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I'm not going to take the time to look at all the NFL teams, but the Packers WR group may be better than two other teams in our division (Chicago, Minnesota).
    The Bears appear to be more talented across the board. Hard to give them a fair evaluation with Trubisky at the helm. I believe you put that Corp with Rodgers and it would be scary. Robinson is a stud. Miller has mass upside. I would take Ridley/Wimms over MVS/St.Brown. Ted Ginn has question marks kinda like Funches. They have versatility in T. Cohen and C. Patterson. Lots of weapons there.

    Don’t think it’s really that close overall actually.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      I'm not going to take the time to look at all the NFL teams, but the Packers WR group may be better than two other teams in our division (Chicago, Minnesota).
      take your sensible thinking somewhere else, not welcome here
      Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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      • #33
        Originally posted by falco View Post
        take your sensible thinking somewhere else, not welcome here
        Well PFF isn’t necessarily the Bible of player ratings but it is widely used for players play level as a reference.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
          The Bears appear to be more talented across the board. Hard to give them a fair evaluation with Trubisky at the helm. I believe you put that Corp with Rodgers and it would be scary. Robinson is a stud. Miller has mass upside. I would take Ridley/Wimms over MVS/St.Brown. Ted Ginn has question marks kinda like Funches. They have versatility in T. Cohen and C. Patterson. Lots of weapons there.

          Don’t think it’s really that close overall actually.
          Adams is better than Robinson.
          MVS has almost identical career yards as Miller.
          Funchess and Ginn are a wash at this point.
          ESB probably has similar upside as the Georgia boys, Ridley and Wims. All are late round picks with little production.

          Cohen is an RB and we were talking about the WR group. Aaron Jones had more receiving yards than Cohen last year and as many receiving TDs.

          Patterson is mostly a returner (more of a RB than WR at this point).
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            Adams is better than Robinson.
            MVS has almost identical career yards as Miller.
            Funchess and Ginn are a wash at this point.
            ESB probably has similar upside as the Georgia boys, Ridley and Wims. All are late round picks with little production.

            Cohen is an RB and we were talking about the WR group. Aaron Jones had more receiving yards than Cohen last year and as many receiving TDs.

            Patterson is mostly a returner (more of a RB than WR at this point).
            You would be hard pressed to find one NFL personnel guy to take MVS over Miller so that’s just crazy. I don’t even think MVS belongs on the Packers roster but will make it because NOBODY was brought in to compete which is a GIANT FAIL! The Bears have a more formidable 1-2 scenario.

            I would also take Ridlley over the guys you mentioned. I think you have to include Cohen like you would Ervin for the Packers on gadget type plays and Cohen is > Ervin.

            Once again when you enter Trubisky it changes the production level of this whole thing. I believe this group will be much more effective with Foles. I also belive if Rodgers had this group we would have enough overall firepower on offense. The Bears group is deeper and has several different types of weaponry. While it’s not elite I would place it higher then the Packers.

            I think your are fooling yourself and giving our guys a little too much credit outside of Adams.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              Scan the top 4 for each NFL team. Assume all are back from injuries.

              Who are we better than ? It's a legit challenge

              OK, back to the hot tub !!
              Oh wow....I remember now....it was the ghosts of the lesbian hot tub.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #37
                Is Adams the best WR in the NFC north?
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  Is Adams the best WR in the NFC north?
                  Yes, Adams would have my vote as the best receiver in the NFC North. The problem is after Adams the drop off is steep as has been talked about. There gonna need a massive jump from Sternberger, Lazard etc to have a chance.

                  Hopefully Gute pulls his head out of his ass and makes a move to strengthen this position group or gives us a legitimate no.2 receiver cause right now all we have is a hope and a dream which quite frankly isn’t acceptable.

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                  • #39
                    I’m pretty sure with Funches we just have a smaller version of Graham. Another slower big guy. Not really what the doctor ordered.

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                    • #40
                      Right now we have one dude that can consistently create separation at the LOS. We need another one. It’s that simple. Gute has had free agency and the draft and he has just ignored it. At this point it looks like we’re gonna roll with what we have which is less then exciting.

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                      • #41
                        I will withhold my judgement on the state of the Packer WR group until I get a clearer understanding of GBB's feeling on it. At this point, it's still a little murky.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                          I will withhold my judgement on the state of the Packer WR group until I get a clearer understanding of GBB's feeling on it. At this point, it's still a little murky.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            Scan the top 4 for each NFL team. Assume all are back from injuries.

                            Who are we better than ? It's a legit challenge

                            OK, back to the hot tub !!
                            Just to be clear, are we counting TE as a WR...if so are we counting on RBs as WR if they do what Jones did and command a CB to cover them? If we are the first and not the second, why? I think we have 2 top notch weapons besides ARod and a bunch of serviceable weapons behind them. As I have pointed out many times the 2 teams in the Owl have worse WR than us. But, but the TE...well, we have a better RB than either of them.

                            We have enough weapons to win it all. We simply do. Year 2 in the system should help, and I expect to win 11 games this year with a BRUTAL road schedule.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                              The Bears appear to be more talented across the board. Hard to give them a fair evaluation with Trubisky at the helm. I believe you put that Corp with Rodgers and it would be scary. Robinson is a stud. Miller has mass upside. I would take Ridley/Wimms over MVS/St.Brown. Ted Ginn has question marks kinda like Funches. They have versatility in T. Cohen and C. Patterson. Lots of weapons there.

                              Don’t think it’s really that close overall actually.
                              Isn't Cohen a RB? Miller has massive upside? He is a slot weapon who probably had less production than Lazard from week 8 on. Robinson is a stud, but so is Adams. Ridley over MVS? Ridley is half the size of MVS and Lazard and Ridley ran a whopping 4.58!!! If you don't want to give MVS/St. Brown/Lazard Upside, you really can't give it to anyone on Chicago's roster.

                              And Javon Wims...ayfkm!!! A 7th round pick who ran a 4.53? His numbers were worse than Kumerow ffs. You lose credibility with every post like this.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                GB should dangle a 5th round pick for Kenny Stills

                                I don't want the chemistry cancer in Antonio Brown
                                Kenny Stills is the cancer of Brown without the talent....you were being sarcastic right?
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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