Training Camp Thread

[GB-Brandon]

I’ve noticed a pause to the “Super Bowl Shuffle” lol

[texaspackerbacker]

We might actually be better off with somebody other than Billy Turner starting.

[GB-Brandon]

Well if it’s Alex Light then god help us now!!!

[bobblehead]

Martin was making big play after big play in camp on a daily basis. Making several tackles or plays on the opposing side of LOS. Also coming up and taking on lead blockers and showing he had the power to anchor himself. On one play he came up and knocked Deguara completely on his ass blowing the play up.

Tough Break for a defense that needed help in this area.

I thought you told me 5th rounders don't have the pedigree to be great.

[bobblehead]

I’ve noticed a pause to the “Super Bowl Shuffle” lol

Huh? You mean cuz a rookie 5th rounder got hurt? Not sure I understand this post.

[GB-Brandon]

I thought you told me 5th rounders don't have the pedigree to be great.

I think I’ve been pretty clear with my “probability approach” and while it’s possible to find good or great players as has been done in mid to late rounds the probabilities are usually higher of finding such talent in the earlier rounds.

Not sure what your trying to stoke up here.

[GB-Brandon]

Huh? You mean cuz a rookie 5th rounder got hurt? Not sure I understand this post.

He was showing the most early potential of any rookie in camp up to this point at a position that needed an upgrade. Take it for what you want.

Add the injury to Turner which is another serious area of concern and this could be an issue.

You are aware of who the Vikings edge rushers are right?

[RashanGary]

Rookies suck. Kamal being out makes us better. Maybe not in the long run cuz his development is important, but winning the first game, we're better off without him.

Taylor and Wagner are probably are most reliable right side so turner being down for a game or two shouldn't hurt.

I think we'll all celebrate if Lazard and MVS ball out this year, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna silence the doubters

Great finish to camp! R-E-L-A-X!!!!!

[bobblehead]

I think I’ve been pretty clear with my “probability approach” and while it’s possible to find good or great players as has been done in mid to late rounds the probabilities are usually higher of finding such talent in the earlier rounds.

Not sure what your trying to stoke up here.

That you are an inconsistent fool and use whichever argument suits your purpose. Duh, you do better mathematically with a 1st rounder over a 5th. But your biggest knock on MVS is his draft pedigree. Same with Lazard. But when you like a player like Martin, then it doesn't matter. The guy hasn't played 1 single NFL game yet and you are pimping him. I like the camp he put together. I like the camp MVS put together as well. You dismiss one but not the other because it fits the point you want to make at the moment.

[bobblehead]

He was showing the most early potential of any rookie in camp up to this point at a position that needed an upgrade. Take it for what you want.

Add the injury to Turner which is another serious area of concern and this could be an issue.

You are aware of who the Vikings edge rushers are right?

And MVS has flashed a ton of potential through 2 seasons and this camp. But you have insisted he can't emerge.

[GB-Brandon]

That you are an inconsistent fool and use whichever argument suits your purpose. Duh, you do better mathematically with a 1st rounder over a 5th. But your biggest knock on MVS is his draft pedigree. Same with Lazard. But when you like a player like Martin, then it doesn't matter. The guy hasn't played 1 single NFL game yet and you are pimping him. I like the camp he put together. I like the camp MVS put together as well. You dismiss one but not the other because it fits the point you want to make at the moment.

My complaint has been the same all along which was to rely on a bunch of late round development receivers was a mistake. Time will tell.

Does this mean I can’t like Aaron Jones or Bak either? You are completely taking this out of context to what my issue was.

The Packers didn’t draft a receiver for two years PERIOD!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Rookies suck. Kamal being out makes us better. Maybe not in the long run cuz his development is important, but winning the first game, we're better off without him.

Taylor and Wagner are probably are most reliable right side so turner being down for a game or two shouldn't hurt.

I think we'll all celebrate if Lazard and MVS ball out this year, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna silence the doubters

Great finish to camp! R-E-L-A-X!!!!!

Martinez started games as a rookie. When/if Kirksey goes down this becomes a huge injury.

[wist43]

Rookies suck. Kamal being out makes us better. Maybe not in the long run cuz his development is important, but winning the first game, we're better off without him.

Taylor and Wagner are probably are most reliable right side so turner being down for a game or two shouldn't hurt.

I think we'll all celebrate if Lazard and MVS ball out this year, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna silence the doubters

Great finish to camp! R-E-L-A-X!!!!!

Hopefully Summers can step up... Burks has never been an option.

Losing Martin hurts a lot... except for the fact that the Packers don't care about the position in general.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think Curtis Bolton is still around too. He did damn good in the preseason last year, better than Summers. I haven't given up on Burks. Not being instinctive ought to be curable over time with coaching. Keep him another year or two, and hopefully he will be develop - and in the meantime, with his athleticism he ought to be serviceable with good coaching on special teams.

[bobblehead]

My complaint has been the same all along which was to rely on a bunch of late round development receivers was a mistake. Time will tell.

Does this mean I can’t like Aaron Jones or Bak either? You are completely taking this out of context to what my issue was.

The Packers didn’t draft a receiver for two years PERIOD!!!

Fair enough. We haven't drafted and ILB early ever and the mark of the best 3-4 defenses is a dominant ILB. Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, Luke Keuchly, Bobby Wagner. I wish we would get a guy like that...although I like Kirksey, and I agree Martin sounded good. But I really need to see him play first.