Kenny Clark Resigned

[texaspackerbacker]

I've got to go with Gary on this one. Clark is that rare player who can penetrate into the backfield but is also strong at the point of attack. Raji, who I learned to hate, could get into the backfield sometimes too, but he was consistently pushed back badly on run plays. You don't see that with Clark.

As for the 4-3 stuff, when the Packers run that 2 man line thing, it basically is a 4-3 with the OLBs acting like 4-3 DEs. Putting two rabid pass rushers on the outside and a third strong pass rusher moving inside with Clark, you have something really special coming at an offense, but you need one guy in there with some strength against the run - Clark.

My only worry is he gets hurt or fades otherwise. With luck he won't have a serious injury, and he's young enough that he should not fade in 4 or 5 years.

APB: they should extend Aaron Jones too.

[bobblehead]

There is more to football than pressures. Like setting an edge as an edge defender is a decent start to rounding out your game.

I agree, but you were talking about bringing pressure. That is what I addressed. And then I said "now if we can stop the run...."

[bobblehead]

Aaron Rodgers
Kenny Clark

Best two players on Packers.

Top 5 at their positions. Rodgers, Bahk, Adams. Top 10. Z, Preston, Jenkins (yes), Jones, Clark

Holes: WR2, TE, ILB

This team is actually pretty loaded. TT left a very full cupboard and a lot of salary cap. I'm most concerned about the hole at ILB. I still think we get run over too much this season, but I see another very successful season. In a year or 2 we will have our full answer about Gutes. It will depend a lot on Gary, Sternberger and the development of MVS and EQ.

[bobblehead]

I've got to go with Gary on this one. Clark is that rare player who can penetrate into the backfield but is also strong at the point of attack. Raji, who I learned to hate, could get into the backfield sometimes too, but he was consistently pushed back badly on run plays. You don't see that with Clark.

As for the 4-3 stuff, when the Packers run that 2 man line thing, it basically is a 4-3 with the OLBs acting like 4-3 DEs. Putting two rabid pass rushers on the outside and a third strong pass rusher moving inside with Clark, you have something really special coming at an offense, but you need one guy in there with some strength against the run - Clark.

My only worry is he gets hurt or fades otherwise. With luck he won't have a serious injury, and he's young enough that he should not fade in 4 or 5 years.

APB: they should extend Aaron Jones too.

You are correct tex about the 4-3 stuff. We intentionally have grabbed OLB that go 275+. They are nearly 4-3 DE, but we do stack to one side I think allowing Clark to play NT quite often. Our D is a hybrid at this point without a true identity. Its designed to destroy the pass game, but unfortunately to a few capable teams it means we can't stop the run enough.

[GB-Brandon]

Top 5 at their positions. Rodgers, Bahk, Adams. Top 10. Z, Preston, Jenkins (yes), Jones, Clark

Holes: WR2, TE, ILB

This team is actually pretty loaded. TT left a very full cupboard and a lot of salary cap. I'm most concerned about the hole at ILB. I still think we get run over too much this season, but I see another very successful season. In a year or 2 we will have our full answer about Gutes. It will depend a lot on Gary, Sternberger and the development of MVS and EQ.

You're leaving out RT which could very quickly become a disaster. Wagner was a disaster last year and there is health concerns as well. Who replaces him? DL needs immediate help too. Nickel Corner is kinda up in the air too.

Add to what you mentioned at WR and ILB and trouble could be looming if the team doesn't stay as healthy as last year. It will ultimately come down to that and the ability of LaFluer to transform this offense with adding some of the rookies to make his ground and pound run game work. If he can get some of those rookies to contribute and make it work there could be some success that would lead to play action in the passing game which could give things some traction. There is no way at this point this team is gonna line up and win with a high volume passing attack with Rodgers just running the show. They just don't have the firepower to do that anymore. This team will have a very hard time coming back against good to great teams if they ever get behind.

On the other side of the ball they of course need key guys to stay healthy but Pettine needs to pull his head out of his ass and be able and willing to adjust his scheme in certain in game situations. Overall, there is some good talent on this defense. If the offense can get the lead the defense can keep it with a fierce pass rush and a competent secondary that can make you pay.

Well see if Gute got the right pieces and LaFluer can stir the drink correctly. It's gonna be different. That's for sure.

[bobblehead]

Heh...yea, I just mentioned in the other thread that I was more worried about RT than WR. Truth is though I don't see it as a "hole" as much as a weakness. I think Wagner is serviceable and has proven that over his career, but yes, it is almost guaranteed to be a weakness no matter who we line up there.

[RashanGary]

Clark is best nose in football

[GB-Brandon]

Heh...yea, I just mentioned in the other thread that I was more worried about RT than WR. Truth is though I don't see it as a "hole" as much as a weakness. I think Wagner is serviceable and has proven that over his career, but yes, it is almost guaranteed to be a weakness no matter who we line up there.

Well if Billy Turner is out there at RT it’s a huge hole. Mine as well just insert Jordan Love now.

[GB-Brandon]

Clark is best nose in football

Clark needs some help ASAP. He is being asked to do way to much. Won’t last that long.

[Upnorth]

Turner at rt is just slightly below average in the league from what I have read, definately not bottom 1/3rd. And with a rod at qb he will look better imo, as he has made the oline look good for years with the way he moves into protection.

I would love to see Clark get some help but we need ilb more imo.

[GB-Brandon]

Turner at rt is just slightly below average in the league from what I have read, definately not bottom 1/3rd. And with a rod at qb he will look better imo, as he has made the oline look good for years with the way he moves into protection.

I would love to see Clark get some help but we need ilb more imo.

If we dig deeper Turner will be serviceable in run game. Where it will be a struggle is obvious pass downs. This presents multiple problems. One, there is the area where i do see some regression from Rodgers is his ability to move around in the pocket like he once could. He still is effective but not what he once was. He needs more help there now. Two, we play in a division with one of the most feared pass rushers in the game K. Mack and the Bears will most definitely match him up on a weak pass blocker such a Turner. Three, teams love to press our receivers while doubling Adams knowing we really can't beat it giving their pass rushers more time to get to Rodgers putting even more pressure on a weak pass blocker such as Turner. This all creates a situation where you see Rodgers taking a sack or throwing the ball away and looking frustrated and most Packer fans taking it the wrong way.

To me this was already a problem last season and now it's actually worse. Zero was done to address any of this.

[GB-Brandon]

Clark is being over-used and overworked in this system for positive long term use. Yes, he is young and he is getting paid big $ now but there is nobody on the roster that can help off-set some of his responsibilities or offer any productive relief. At this pace we’ll see how long it lasts.

This is why I do not understand what the hell they are building for. The window is right now!!!

[Upnorth]

Funny how as arod regresses they transition to the run game... Almost like it was the plan?

[GB-Brandon]

Funny how as arod regresses they transition to the run game... Almost like it was the plan?

I’ve posted about this and doing this while using the play action. Yes, that appears to be the plan. The thing is most NFL defenses can take away the run if they commit to it. It still remains to be seen if the Packers can win in the passing game under those circumstances with their limited weapons.

We shall see.

[GB-Brandon]

I believe A-Rod could still light it up in a high volume passing offense with the right pieces around him. We will find out later if this is true but it certainly won’t be in Green Bay.