Week 1 Vikings discussion thread

[Patler]

Rick Wagner has been a Lane Taylor level starting RT for the last 7 years. Outside of last years injury riddled season he’s graded out as a solid starter on Pff. He’s 30. Turning 31 in October.

He’s healthy. For now. And Billy Turner is coming back.

Guy has played a lot of good NFL football. If that’s our biggest concern, and it is, we're no where near the level of uncertainty as the Patriots starting Marshmallow Newhouse at LT last year. Let's RELAX! Bakh will hold down the left side and Wagner will.get a little help. No worries!

... and yet, Newhouse has 81 career starts to Wagner's 87, albeit in two more seasons. I have always had respect for the way Newhouse has battled to have an NFL career, going where ever he is needed, and playing what ever position he is needed for. He has started at every o-line position except center

[RashanGary]

... and yet, Newhouse has 81 career starts to Wagner's 87, albeit in two more seasons. I have always had respect for the way Newhouse has battled to have an NFL career, going where ever he is needed, and playing what ever position he is needed for. He has started at every o-line position except center

Pretty damn solid NFL career. Very few who make it to the NFL accomplish what Marshmallow did in his long career. I'm with you on that respect for sure. He's been a career 60 grade player per pff grading scale. And teams always looking to replace him seem to match with that grade. Team's not being able to find someone better is also a pattern, probably the reason he's lasted so long.

Wagner is different in that he's locked down a spot and held it for two different teams. A career 70 grade matches with that sort of team commitment too because there aren't many better.

Wagner at age 31, one of his last likely to be really solid years is a fairly big improvement compared to all the team's starting those 60 level players. It's happening all over the place. We're fretting about one of the more solid RTs of the last decade. Its a bit of a luxury gripe.

[RashanGary]

Both Lane Taylor and Rick Wagner are in that 70 Pff grade performance level. Both are guys team's have penciled in and paid. Both are 30 years old and turning 31 by the end of November.

It's a fairly solid, but aging, right side.

The bigger fear is next year when we need to start looking at moving on from both

[bobblehead]

Not a word about Sternberger, RG and GBB. Is he hurt or has he fallen that far in the depth charts? I had a low opinion of the guy, and I haven't heard of anything he's done to change that.

I don't expect Rodgers to use TEs any more than he ever has. I do expect some big plays to WRs, though, as the Vikings try to tighten up against the run. And I do NOT expect a low scoring game. 38-20 Packers sounds about right.

Then I expect Love or Boyle to be our QB sooner rather than later.

[bobblehead]

Both Lane Taylor and Rick Wagner are in that 70 Pff grade performance level. Both are guys team's have penciled in and paid. Both are 30 years old and turning 31 by the end of November.

It's a fairly solid, but aging, right side.

The bigger fear is next year when we need to start looking at moving on from both

This year we will see the "rise of Yosh". Or he will flame out ala Alan Babre.

[Tony Oday]

I would imagine Dalvin Runs for 120+, Thielen destroys our secondary and AR is under pressure all day and has a lack luster game until crunch time when he gets junk stats and a TD or 2.

[RashanGary]

Danielle hunter out!!! Might be able to line up and poke at those corners a little easier than we first thought!

[Tony Oday]

Danielle hunter out!!! Might be able to line up and poke at those corners a little easier than we first thought!

Yikes that changes a lot.

[Upnorth]

Danielle hunter out!!! Might be able to line up and poke at those corners a little easier than we first thought!

They still have decent edge rush in the fa and back up so not easy for our tackles but good news for our oline.

[RashanGary]

Hunter is the best player on their team. He’ll be missed.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers pimping Tonyan. Lazard was his guy last year. 12 might know a thing or two. I've been a huge tonyan counter, but if 12 is on board, so am I

[RashanGary]

Viking fans, fans of the team that had the collarbone injury in their stadium as part of their hype videos during games, are whining that Packer fans are happy that Hunter is out. Yeah, fuck off!

[Fosco33]

Hoping for a somewhat competitive game. I imagine the lack of preseason will show up (sort of like NCAA) in the first month.

Not sure about others - but this is the least excited I’ve been about a packers season in a very long time.

[run pMc]

Viking fans, fans of the team that had the collarbone injury in their stadium as part of their hype videos during games, are whining that Packer fans are happy that Hunter is out. Yeah, fuck off!

I'm not happy that Hunter has a neck injury. I am happy that the Vikings defense could be negatively impacted.

As for Rodgers 'pimping' certain players, I always am wary of that. Seems to me when coaches or the QB do that it's more of a confidence-booster or public way to motivate them. Sternberger was on COVID list and then seemed rusty coming back, so it's not a huge surprise he's not the starter. I think they'll all rotate in. Tonyan has had several seasons to get it figured out; IMO it's now or never for him to show something or get labelled a tease.

[Patler]

Wagner is different in that he's locked down a spot and held it for two different teams. A career 70 grade matches with that sort of team commitment too because there aren't many better.

Wagner at age 31, one of his last likely to be really solid years is a fairly big improvement compared to all the team's starting those 60 level players. It's happening all over the place. We're fretting about one of the more solid RTs of the last decade. Its a bit of a luxury gripe.

That's my concern, he did not lock down a position with the Lions. There were rumblings from the get-go that he was not performing up to his FA contract, but played because of it. Then, after just three years of a 5 year contract, the Lions released him, took the signing bonus hit, then went out and signed a replacement to an even larger $/yr contract than Wagner's. That sounds like a player who has hit his end, even though he is not by any means ancient for a lineman.

I fear this might be a Jeff Saturday-like signing. Hope I am wrong.