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  • #46
    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
    Unfortunately for a lot of fools you don’t realize what you had until it’s gone.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #47
      Loins and groins, I don't know how I feel about our gladiator sport being filled with such vulnerabilities. What's next, nipples and butt holes?
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #48
        It was pretty obvious about the time Favre left the Packers that he was the greatest QB in history up to that time based on performance, endurance, records set, etc. Some of those records have been broken, at least in part do to the game changing - rules protecting QBs, more passing, etc. Rodgers is the GOAT also based on performance. It's not hard to justify calling him that. Sooner or later, somebody will probably be even more GOATish. Mahomes seems the most likely, but he has a long long way to go to earn the label. Odds are that lightning won't strike thrice in Green Bay, but who knows. Love doesn't seem like he's a good candidate for future GOAT, but nothing's impossible. A large part of Aaron Rodgers' greatness is his discipline and judgment in not throwing interceptions. Love certainly ought to observe that and soak it up. That would be a good start, but it takes a helluva lot more. And we don't even know if he will be the next Packer QB 7-10 years from now when Rodgers finally hangs it up.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          You have made it very clear that you are as irrational about Rodgers as Tex is about Bakh. We all get it. Aron=perfect world=sucks
          Also, no way!!

          Tex is sayin Bak is bad and our receivers are great.

          I’m saying AR12 is a generational talent that needs more help. Bak is a All-Pro level LT and after Devante Adams are receivers are mediocre!!!

          I think I have the most rational view here.

          Thank You!!!!

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          • #50
            I don't think I said Bakhtiari is bad, just that he is overrated and absolutely that keeping him should not cause other excellent players to be lost.

            I have always agreed with you completely that Rodgers is a "generational talent" - still the greatest in the NFL, despite the advent of Mahomes, Jackson, or anybody else. And for a long time before you came along, I complained that Ted Thompson didn't do a good enough job of providing a supporting cast for him. I wasn't as wild about it as you hahahahaha, but I did mildly think that way. I strongly disagree with you, of course about the Packer WRs and about the team now in general. As I have said, there is absolutely no reason to expect the team to do worse than last season except maybe a slightly tougher schedule. And there is plenty of reason to expect the team to be even better.

            Edit: I'm gonna make ya'all a little bit happy. In keeping with Bobblehead's challenge, I went to my YouTubeTV Library and replayed the game last Sunday. I have to concede, Bakhtiari wasn't as bad as I thought. It's true, almost all the running plays to his side failed, but it didn't appear to be his fault. Each time, his job was a kick out block which he executed ok. The failure was the Guard - Patrick - letting the D come from the inside to stop the runner for a short gain. The same play later with Jenkins at LG was about the only good run to the left. In pass blocking also, Bakhtiari was more solid than I thought. The two times when the rush almost got to Rodgers from that side, it came from outside Bakhtiari who apparently was not supposed to slide to the outside and pick up the blitzer. So yeah, he did generally better than I thought. I will do the same after next Sunday's game. I still absolutely don't want to lose Jones to keep him, and probably not linsley either.
            Last edited by texaspackerbacker; 09-18-2020, 10:23 PM.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              I don't think I said Bakhtiari is bad, just that he is overrated and absolutely that keeping him should not cause other excellent players to be lost.

              I have always agreed with you completely that Rodgers is a "generational talent" - still the greatest in the NFL, despite the advent of Mahomes, Jackson, or anybody else. And for a long time before you came along, I complained that Ted Thompson didn't do a good enough job of providing a supporting cast for him. I wasn't as wild about it as you hahahahaha, but I did mildly think that way. I strongly disagree with you, of course about the Packer WRs and about the team now in general. As I have said, there is absolutely no reason to expect the team to do worse than last season except maybe a slightly tougher schedule. And there is plenty of reason to expect the team to be even better.
              Towards the end Thompson didn’t either but what he left in place was better then this. Gute has taken the PURGE to a whole new level!!!

              It really makes you believe that Rodgers is more tolerated among the front office and not really liked. Same thing with some of the fans etc. Why would Rodgers even want to still stay here?

              A GM like John Elway(just for example) would of never left Rodgers hanging like this.

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              • #52
                I don't like a lot of what Gutekunst has done, but the fact his, he has been more good than bad/made the team better with his good moves than worse with his bad ones. 13-3, and probably at least as good this year - THAT is the bottom line.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  I don't like a lot of what Gutekunst has done, but the fact his, he has been more good than bad/made the team better with his good moves than worse with his bad ones. 13-3, and probably at least as good this year - THAT is the bottom line.
                  Or Maybe the Packers have found a “Happy Medium” with what the majority of their fan base is willing to accept.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                    #GOAT
                    #notperfect
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                      I just get upset when everyone tries to put all these Fucken scrubs in the Devante Adams comparison box all the time cause it is so disrespectful to Adams and such a joke.

                      It’s like some fool bringing out a Donkey to go race next to a thoroughbred at the Kentucky Derby. It’s just laughable!!!

                      Yet people are continuing to run that Donkey out here!!

                      So much fun!!
                      Talk about changing someones narrative. Everyone on this site thinks Rodgers is an all time great. We also think spending on things like defense and OL matter more than the 3rd option in touches does...especially when the 3rd and 4th options are solid players who both had good games.

                      edit: Did you watch the Bengles game Thur? Burrow had a mountain of weapons (although AJ looked slow). He has a 2nd round rookie, fastest man in history, superb multi talented RB and 2 other solid WR...but he was on his ass or running for his life a lot. Give me a dominant OL any day and I'll build a good offense around it.

                      Edit2: Look at a scrub like Ryan Tannehill. Give him a great OL and run game and suddenly he looks pretty damn good.
                      Last edited by bobblehead; 09-19-2020, 10:48 AM.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        Talk about changing someones narrative. Everyone on this site thinks Rodgers is an all time great. We also think spending on things like defense and OL matter more than the 3rd option in touches does...especially when the 3rd and 4th options are solid players who both had good games.

                        edit: Did you watch the Bengles game Thur? Burrow had a mountain of weapons (although AJ looked slow). He has a 2nd round rookie, fastest man in history, superb multi talented RB and 2 other solid WR...but he was on his ass or running for his life a lot. Give me a dominant OL any day and I'll build a good offense around it.

                        Edit2: Look at a scrub like Ryan Tannehill. Give him a great OL and run game and suddenly he looks pretty damn good.
                        I don’t think AJ looked slow. He might of looked a little gassed at times due to not playing in so long and only his second week back playing on three days rest. He had a couple he didn’t convert which would of been amazing catches which he does convert a lot. Burrow couldn’t get him the ball deep which is an issue moving forward for Burrow and the deep ball. Arm strength could be a concern for Burrow. I don’t see that same problem with Rodgers throwing to Green.

                        AJ had several plays where he showed that twitch he is famous for. We’re taking about a guy that had an 85.2 PFF rating in 2018 when he played. Sure, he may not be as super elite as he once was but to think he wouldn’t be an upgrade as no.2 option in the Packers offense is just ridiculous.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                          Rodgers has an unprecedented skill set which I believe makes him the GOAT. When you take into consideration his arm strength, release, accuracy and then add in his mobility in the pocket and being able to do it all on the run. He has done it over time and in cold weather. He is clutch under pressure. Favre was great and a warrior but Rodgers is just more precise and more talented. The way Rodgers puts up numbers and takes care of the ball is amazing. Something fans will notice immediately when he leaves.

                          Rodgers doesn’t have the Super Bowls like Brady but it isn’t his fault. He has taken some of the least talented teams to Champ games and the playoffs. He has done more for an NFL organization then any other player in modern day football.

                          Without Aaron Rodgers the Packers would resemble the Cleveland Browns with their dysfunctional front office and overall faulty talent acquisition process.

                          #GOAT
                          Excellent Post up to the last paragraph. All through the Ted Thompson years, even that last paragraph would have been true. Now, however, I'd put the Packers a little above the middle of the pack even without Rodgers.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            Excellent Post up to the last paragraph. All through the Ted Thompson years, even that last paragraph would have been true. Now, however, I'd put the Packers a little above the middle of the pack even without Rodgers.
                            Yes, and while everyone is running to Mahommes as “The Next Goat”, I’m not so sure. He is obviously very talented and will have a great career. However; thus far his accuracy isn’t even as close to what Rodgers delivers on a regular basis. Mahommes also has this plethora of talent around him where he basically just has to make a read and hit a wide open guy most of the time.

                            I haven’t seen anybody past or present consistently put the ball in tight windows successfully like AR12.

                            Why people don’t want to see that type of talent assembled around AR12 is mind-blowing to me!!!

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                            • #59
                              Just out of curiosity, how much money should the Packers ear mark for QB and WR ?

                              Wondering, because there is only so much $$$ to go around.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                                Just out of curiosity, how much money should the Packers ear mark for QB and WR ?

                                Wondering, because there is only so much $$$ to go around.
                                How much have the Kansas City Chiefs “Ear Marked for a QB and WR’s & even a TE”

                                Tired of this Salary cap bullshit. You can draft top talented receivers in the draft too and have them on rookie contracts for up to 5 years.

                                It’s called a “Lack of Willingness”. Has nothing to do with the cap.!!!!

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