“Aaron Rodgers Revenge Tour”

[bobblehead]

People respond to a lot of the posts so I respond back.

I do believe what I’m talking about is a pretty important thing in regards to the Packers winning a Super Bowl. You have a right to feel differently.

I’ve also been diving into the defense and the good things too like how well Aaron Rodgers is playing. The AJ contract has been discussed as has other teams around the league.

Overall I would consider it a Plethora of information covered.

True. But at this point you add nothing new or relevant. People are responding because you are annoying them, not because you are causing insight, or offering anything of value.

[bobblehead]

This pretty much tells it all:

http://twitter.com/PFF/status/1308459766373593088

Does anyone have a problem with this “PFF Rating?”

Are they getting it right?

Do you have a problem with this?

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-units-entering-the-2020-nfl-season

4. GREEN BAY PACKERS
Green Bay's offensive line finished sixth in our 2019 rankings, anchored by left tackle David Bakhtiari, who has taken over for Joe Thomas as the best pass-protecting tackle in the league. Since 2016, no one comes close to Bakhtiari’s 96.4 pass-blocking grade. His quickness, technique and anchor allow him to handle any type of pass-rusher. Bakhtiari is a good run blocker, ranking 35th with a 69.3 grade since 2016, but pass protection is his calling card. Rick Wagner will man the other tackle spot. He has earned a 70.0-plus grade in four of his six years as a starter, though he’s coming off a career-low 59.0 grade in 2019. Bryan Bulaga had been Green Bay's starting right tackle since 2010, but injuries have plagued him throughout his career. Wagner has the pedigree to replace Bulaga’s production, which ranks 22nd in the league since 2016, but last year’s step back is a concern.

[GB-Brandon]

So you agree that Rick Wagner is a better Tackle than Brian Bulaga.

No I don’t. It’s so ridiculous that I won’t even respond to it. This thread is about the “Aaron Rodgers Revenge Tour.” Don’t want to cloud it up with with such ridiculous banter.

[bobblehead]

Sigh, queue broken record or horse beatings as the constant ranting about the need for another top receiver is getting beyond annoying. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but it's beyond old how you rope that need into almost all the threads. Add to the fact that you speak like you're absolutely right and know better than GM's and coaches that have more football knowledge than any of us fits right into the rest of this dumpster fire that is 2020.

A simple look at some of the last champions of the past 20 years suggests your rant about the need for a #2 receiver is about as valuable as monopoly money. Now granted statistics can be construed but where in the following do you see a trend of elite #2 receivers leading their teams to the SB?

2001 Patriots
- Troy Brown #1
- David Patten (51 receptions for 749 yds)
- no other receiver with more than 24 receptions or 204 yds
- TE was Jermaine Wiggins with 21 receptions for 133 yds

2002 Bucs
- 32yr old Keenen McCardell (61 receptions for 670 yds)
- KeyShawn Johnson (76 receptions for 1088yds)
- Ken Dilger was TE (34 receptions for 329yds)

2005 Steelers
- Hines Ward (69 receptions for 975 yds)
- Antwaan Randle El (35 receptions for 558 yds)
- Heath Miller @ TE (39 receptions for 459 yds)

2007 Giants
- Plaxico Burress (70 receptions for 1025 yds)
- Amani Toomer (59 receptions for 760 yds)
- Jeremy Shockey @ TE (57 receptions for 619 yds)

2012 Ravens
- no receiver with more than 65 receptions or 921 yds

2013 Seahawks
- one receiver with 64 receptions for 898 yds and the second with 50 receptions and 778 yds (where TE was a scrub)

There were other teams borderline and indeed a few that had two very good receivers (again few) but it's not a requirement for success. The only trend I noted was that the majority of Super Bowl winners had top tier defenses.

Thus you're drum beating for a #2 receiver is likely misguided and should possibly instead be directed to the defense and our inability to stop the run so far. If anything that has the highest probability of being our achilles heel should we make the playoffs and look to play in February.

For the record, I'm not necessarily a Gute fan as I wasn't a far of Gary or our first two picks this year and would have loved to see Cephus in a Packers uniform with the 4th we lost moving up but then again you can rate drafts for 3 years and so his actions sit in the "jury is still out" category to me.

He is an ARod worshipper. He doesn't get it. WR don't win championships. He wants ARod to have glory stats and doesn't actually care about a championship. Even when I pointed out that the Chiefs WR weren't all that last year he wanted to include a TE, but not a RB for GB. He is a broken record at this point in time and not the kind that was fun up until it got stuck.

[GB-Brandon]

Do you have a problem with this?

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-units-entering-the-2020-nfl-season

4. GREEN BAY PACKERS
Green Bay's offensive line finished sixth in our 2019 rankings, anchored by left tackle David Bakhtiari, who has taken over for Joe Thomas as the best pass-protecting tackle in the league. Since 2016, no one comes close to Bakhtiari’s 96.4 pass-blocking grade. His quickness, technique and anchor allow him to handle any type of pass-rusher. Bakhtiari is a good run blocker, ranking 35th with a 69.3 grade since 2016, but pass protection is his calling card. Rick Wagner will man the other tackle spot. He has earned a 70.0-plus grade in four of his six years as a starter, though he’s coming off a career-low 59.0 grade in 2019. Bryan Bulaga had been Green Bay's starting right tackle since 2010, but injuries have plagued him throughout his career. Wagner has the pedigree to replace Bulaga’s production, which ranks 22nd in the league since 2016, but last year’s step back is a concern.

I’m focusing more on 2019 where Bulaga was “77.8” and Wagner was “58.6.” Being that is “the most recent year” I find that to be the most prevalent. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand!!!

[bobblehead]

Except those teams had top end defenses.

Specifically Tampa Bay, Seattle and Baltimore which were all time great defenses. Our defense isn’t even in the same breath as those ones you listed. It would actually be disrespectful to even compare.

I have been posting PFF ratings to pretty much support all of my views. I suppose they are wrong just like me. While PFF may not be the Bible of player rankings it’s a very respected source. I have challenged people to show me something better and miraculously they can’t produce anything.

Edit; Also I’m taking about a “No.2 Option” so it doesn’t necessarily needs to be a WR. It could be a TE as well like the Chiefs use with Kelce etc etc.

Could it be an all world RB and a dominant run game with a #4 overall OL? Asking for a friend. Also, you are changing your narrative because you have been proven wrong many times...but I guess that is a first step.

[GB-Brandon]

He is an ARod worshipper. He doesn't get it. WR don't win championships. He wants ARod to have glory stats and doesn't actually care about a championship. Even when I pointed out that the Chiefs WR weren't all that last year he wanted to include a TE, but not a RB for GB. He is a broken record at this point in time and not the kind that was fun up until it got stuck.

Only a fool would believe the Packers have as good perimeter weapons as the Chiefs.

[bobblehead]

We simply can’t take that chance. There is just too much at stake IMO to roll the dice with a 36/Yo generational QB playing the way he is. With Funches and St. Brown already looking like complete non-factors there isn’t much left after MVS,Lazard and Adams other then Ervin. I’m not sure Ervin is even a legit every down option if called upon. To think all these guys will stay healthy for the rest of the season is a long shot. We will need to beat better competition at some point. We have some time to go until the trade deadline but the sooner the better IMO as it gives as much time possible for that new player to gel in this system.

Yes, Aaron jones is somewhat a second option and a nice weapon that can be used in the passing game. However; I would really prefer to have someone else on the outside either a TE or Receiver that can help create more mismatch’s and keep this offense rolling against top competition.

If the Packers and Gute sit pat with this arsenal and Rodgers takes these guys and wins a Super Bowl then they should build a statue of him in front of Lambeau immediately. That is how remarkable that would be to accomplish.

If they win, it won't be because Rodgers did it alone. That is just stupid talk and actually contradicts everything you have been harping on for months on end.

[bobblehead]

No I don’t. It’s so ridiculous that I won’t even respond to it. This thread is about the “Aaron Rodgers Revenge Tour.” Don’t want to cloud it up with with such ridiculous banter.

You are citing PFF rankings and laughing at tex for dismissing them, but over their career Wagner is better. Your logic, not mine.

[GB-Brandon]

Could it be an all world RB and a dominant run game with a #4 overall OL? Asking for a friend. Also, you are changing your narrative because you have been proven wrong many times...but I guess that is a first step.

Not even close to “changing my narrative.” There was not a TE in sight available that completes “The No.2 Option” so why even discuss it.


Maybe if they drafted Noah Fant but the Packers didn’t do that either so I don’t know what your taking about!!!

[bobblehead]

I’m focusing more on 2019 where Bulaga was “77.8” and Wagner was “58.6.” Being that is “the most recent year” I find that to be the most prevalent. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand!!!

Plenty. Its about the consistency of their career. Bulaga was healthy and Wagner had some nagging injuries last year. Right now, which is all you care about, Wagner is playing pretty good ball.

[bobblehead]

Not even close to “changing my narrative.” There was not a TE in sight available that completes “The No.2 Option” so why even discuss it.


Maybe if they drafted Noah Fant but the Packers didn’t do that either so I don’t know what your taking about!!!

Finally we agree. I will leave it at that.

[GB-Brandon]

If they win, it won't be because Rodgers did it alone. That is just stupid talk and actually contradicts everything you have been harping on for months on end.

Of course not “Doing it All Alone” but he will have done it with less talent to help him more then any team before him.

[GB-Brandon]

Finally we agree. I will leave it at that.

Do we get to see and hear your Drew Brees stats too and watch you make a fool of yourself trying to say he is just as good as Rodgers as well?

Carry On!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Plenty. Its about the consistency of their career. Bulaga was healthy and Wagner had some nagging injuries last year. Right now, which is all you care about, Wagner is playing pretty good ball.

You are the exact Fucken reason why this franchise deserves Jordan Love and everything that comes along with it.